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Making Your Passion Pay: Member Success Story - Neil Moggan

Episode Summary

In this episode, we explore Neil's transformative journey from teacher to wellness and financial education trainer since joining with his wife Katie in 2020. He discusses his departure from teaching, his focus on children's mental wellbeing, and the crucial lack of financial education in schools. Neil shares his experiences with the Swarbricks 8 Dimensions of Wellness model, linking financial stability to better life outcomes. Highlighting his work during the pandemic, Neil reflects on the importance of financial literacy for the younger generation and his personal commitment to teaching his daughter about finances. The episode encapsulates Neil's impactful work and aligns with WealthBuilders' principles, emphasising the need for life skills like financial literacy in educational systems.

Episode Notes

We dive into Neil Moggan's inspiring journey from a teacher to a transformative trainer in mental wellbeing and financial education. Since joining WealthBuilders with his wife Katie in late 2020, Neil has seen significant changes in both his personal growth and financial status.

He discusses the impactful shift in his career after leaving his teaching job, focusing now on improving mental health and meta-cognition in children. Neil highlights the urgent need for better financial education in schools, informed by his firsthand experiences and the stark disparities he's observed.

Neil shares insights into the Swarbricks 8 Dimensions of Wellness model, which underpins his approach to holistic wellbeing, linking financial stability directly with improved life quality.

The conversation also covers his journey into financial literacy, sparked by the pandemic lockdown, leading to innovative educational programs and recognising his efforts with a prestigious award.

Neil's personal approach to teaching his daughter about finances reflects his broader mission to equip the younger generation with essential financial skills, despite the current educational system's shortcomings.

We wrap up by discussing how Neil's work aligns with WealthBuilders' principles and the importance of integrating life skills, like financial literacy, into children's education to foster a healthier, more prosperous future. 

Episode Transcription

Speaker 1  0:01  

The purpose of wealth talk is to educate, inform, and hopefully entertain you on the subject of building your wealth. Wealth builders recommends you should always take independent financial tax or legal advice before making any decisions around your finances.

 

Christian Rodwell  0:17  

Today's episode is brought to you by wealth builders membership a proven step by step process that helps you achieve financial security within two to three years. Find out more head to wealth builders.co.uk forward slash membership. Welcome to Episode 232 of wealth talk. My name is Christian Rodwell, the membership director for wealth builders joined today by our founder Mr. Kevin Whelan. Hi, Kevin. Hello,

 

Speaker 2  0:40  

Chris. Great to be with you. Again. Such a pleasure to have a real true friend of wealth builders, having moved up a level the transition from where he was when he first met us into well, who's become now which is a I'm not going to say an ugly duckling turned into a swan or a caterpillar turned into a butterfly. But there's probably some truth in this. And

 

Christian Rodwell  1:05  

it's incredible to see the the transformation in our Member Neil Morgan, who is our guest today. And in particular focusing in on Neil's passion, which is all around helping children and specifically around mental health, anxiety behavioural issues that we know exist a lot. It's seems to be becoming very prevalent. Kevin, in our society today. And Neil is making a real stamp and helping many children with his work. Yeah,

 

Speaker 2  1:31  

and it's an outstanding thing to see. And while I'm not qualified to speak very much about the subject matter, I can come in, in just laypersons terms, that I think the current generation don't see anything but uncertainty. If you think about what have they seen, you know, they see political unrest, social unrest, economic unrest, wars, pandemics, social media, all sorts of different things, children committing suicide for bullying, you get rich quick schemes. Everything that is about negative seems to be prevalent in today's society. And as a challenge that affects young people in a different way to the way it affects us. And Neil sees it right to the sharp end, I think he makes a comment about the number of children who are waiting to receive some kind of treatment and help with conditions which are not necessarily physically debilitating, so you don't see an outward sign of it, but inwardly debilitating, and that's got to have an impact. That confidence is bound to have an impact on the social mobility on their financial mobility, and ultimately, on their life expectancy. As he said, a blood drawn when you hear it a point that made him so angry, he had to do something about it. Yeah,

 

Christian Rodwell  2:55  

so today's discussion is relevant in a couple of different ways, partly because we'll hear Neil's own story of how he's built wealth over the last three years and through the business pillar through creating IP around his courses. Also in property, he's built up income streams. So that's one side of it. But of course, this ties in with our work with wealth builders, for families, Kevin, because it impacts the whole family, you know, will take up bandwidth and time. There's all things which we know, affect our members when it comes to becoming financially secure and independent. Yeah,

 

Speaker 2  3:25  

I think Neil's definitely made progress. And those three areas of wealth really, which is his own family, and his interaction with his family in all ways, in terms of building a business and how he's done that now. He didn't even imagine that business when he started. It wasn't even in his mind's eye, when he started working with us, that was not on the radar, and then into property as well. So I think what's great about the process of wealth, and the transformation, is how it literally changes lives. And we see it all the time. And I get sometimes we get slightly blase about it because we see people, sack the boss escape the rat race completely change their life around. And because we see it, we often don't stop and celebrate that. And I think today's story with Neil Morgan is a cause for celebration,

 

Christian Rodwell  4:17  

Chris. Absolutely. So let's head on over to our conversation today with wealth builders member, Neil Morgan. Neil, welcome back to wealth talk today. How are you?

 

Unknown Speaker  4:27  

Hi, Christian, and hello to all our listeners.

 

Christian Rodwell  4:29  

Yeah, great to have you back. Neil, who was back in episode 180 When we did the member spotlight on you and we walked through your journey since you joined wealth builders, which was at the end of 2020. So obviously locked down times, you joined with your wife Katie. So I suppose you're in well nearly end of year three now. So have you seen any transformation from then to now?

 

Speaker 3  4:51  

Just a little bit. I really got into financial literacy at the start a lot. I came across Kevin's Seven Pillars book and from there, we signed up The wealth builders Academy, and it's been a fantastic journey, we've developed a property company. So my work tends to run that around student HMOs. And then develop the sideline business alongside my teaching role. And that's kind of mushroom bit bigger than I was anticipated and expecting, as I love teaching, so, but I left my job at Christmas time to focus on that, on that properly. So yeah, it's been a fantastic journey, really, it's been very inspiring and met some fantastic people through it. And it's really enriched our lives. And it's also really protected us from kind of the cost of living crisis, I dread to think the position we have been in as a family and what have happened to our kind of our living standards. But because of the work that we did with wealth builders, over locked down, it's really protected us. So we're very thankful to wealth builders.

 

Christian Rodwell  5:48  

Yeah, we've absolutely loved having you both as part of the community. And, you know, we appreciate all the contributions that you've made, and especially with helping us in those early stages of wealth builders for families, because family really is a core value of yours, isn't it now?

 

Speaker 3  6:01  

Absolutely. I'm really passionate about transforming children's life, chances have been a teacher for 19 years, working with children in low socio economic areas of school that I've worked in, there's a 13 year life expectancy difference depending on what side of the road children were born on. We had the most affluent socio economic area next to the lowest socio economic area. So when I found out I was really angry about that, and then I was like, right, what can I do to change that, and I'm also a dad of two beautiful children. And my earliest ambition was to be a dad from the age of six so fondly so important to me and young people,

 

Christian Rodwell  6:35  

as you mentioned, that you sacked your boss. And that was a big life transition, I guess we knew all right, you said you've been in teaching 19 years. So for people who are in perhaps a similar position where they want to get out of the day to day job and start your own business. So you know, looking back now what, you know, any tips, any advice, when

 

Speaker 3  6:53  

I joined wealth builders, who really wasn't what I wanted to do was to set my boss I loved my job at the time. But situations change, things change. And the more I got into kind of supporting other teachers with their well being programmes, and the more impact I was having, and another double pressures I was getting from working full time plus working on a business in the evenings, weekends, it became quite unsustainable. And I think the tips for people that are looking to maybe exit is to do a lot of the work first. And I worked incredibly hard for about a two three year period. It wasn't particularly healthy. But it got me to that point where I could step aside and feel confident that we've got enough money coming in to provide for the family for six months, a year, year and a half. So that so that you give yourself that space and time so that you can take that leap with confidence, and be able to be confident that you can protect your family. Yeah,

 

Christian Rodwell  7:45  

but I think that's a very wise words there. So today, we are going to focus on your new business and the message that you you know, you deliver so well to many young adults and children out there. And that's really shining the light on the work you're doing now around anxiety, mental well being and metacognition. So you set up your company future action, tell us a bit more about what the purpose of the company

 

Speaker 3  8:07  

is. Yeah, so we're all about transforming children's life chances. We train teachers through online teacher training courses around early intervention, mental wellbeing programmes, reducing children's anxiety, building their confidence in creating sustainable programmes. We're also really passionate about the link between physical activity play and mental wellbeing. So we've got trauma informed PE courses as well. I do public speaking, I've got a book coming out. So that focus on transforming children's life chances is just so important to me and to be traction.

 

Christian Rodwell  8:39  

And how bigger problem is this out there now?

 

Speaker 3  8:42  

Well, it's huge at the moment, we've got about five to six full stadiums of Wembley of children waiting to get specialist access to children and adolescent mental health services. So that's kind of the highest level of mental illness. And we've got obviously a lot of love problems coming down from that. So I think behaviours is a real issue in schools at the moment. Non attendance is a huge issue in schools, our children are struggling, they're in a period of this transformation. See, lockdowns had a huge impact. We got social media as well as academic pressures. It's quite a complex problem. But our children are struggling. And we need to provide teachers with the tools so that I can support these young people. And

 

Christian Rodwell  9:21  

what's the relationship like between the schools and the parents now?

 

Speaker 3  9:25  

We have some fantastic families are incredibly supportive. And we have some families that are struggling at the moment, there's a huge cost of living crisis going on lockdown. So the huge impact on that. So there is this challenge and the schools that are most effective are working together as a team and for the best interest of the child.

 

Christian Rodwell  9:44  

So let's look at some of the work exactly specifically that you do, Neil and I know that you came across a model that's really useful for understanding well being Would you mind talking us through that? In

 

Speaker 3  9:54  

the late 60s Dr. Margaret Swarbrick created the eight dimensions of wellness and this is a really useful model for kind of understanding that that the different kind of interrelated aspects of wellbeing really. So the eighth are emotional, environmental, financial, intellectual, occupational, physical, social, and spiritual. And like I say they interrelate on the on each other. That was really interesting for me when I saw that because I was like, right, what can we do about emotional? What can we do about physical? What can we do about financial when I'm when I was thinking about supporting our young people that maybe didn't get that support from from the house?

 

Christian Rodwell  10:27  

Yeah. And in terms of the products, the courses that you've created now, do they focus on all of those areas? No,

 

Speaker 3  10:34  

we tend to focus on the emotional aspects side, and the physical aspects are the link between physical activity and mental well being. But as I came across this, and as I came across wealth builders, I tended to do a lot around financial literacy as well. So my role in school was a Director of Sports help, and RS ag or sh E stands for relationships, sex and health, education. And under that fits personal social health and economic education. So that's where financial literacy sits in that, as I was doing the wealth builders Academy programme, I was thinking, why isn't this taught in schools, like children need to know this? So I did some enrichment programmes with 12 and 13 year olds around this and they were like, Why aren't we learning this is so simple compared to what we teach in in mass that is, based around Kevin's work around assets, build cash flow, and the difference between an asset and a liability because a lot of financial literacy in schools is quite an ambitious. And that's one of my frustrations is I see the same old budgeting and yes, budgeting is important. But this gives some kids some homeless, they say, Look, you can the life that you want to lead, if you understand what you ultimately you want to get to. And that can fund your lifestyle in however way you want to live your life.

 

Christian Rodwell  11:42  

I've been asking previous guests on on other episodes. Now, why do you think financial education isn't taught in schools, but you're really well placed to perhaps give a different perspective?

 

Speaker 3  11:52  

Yeah, a couple of reasons. So firstly, when you think about why schools were created in the first place, during the Industrial times, it was to create a workforce. And the school system is so huge now that it's very difficult to evolve. And that's one of the challenges when the world's moving at such a fast pace. And the school system really struggles to adapt to that like even stuff like the internet, you could argue that schools haven't adapted that well to that. And the second point, so Alex Ferguson makes a really interesting point that it's intentional by our leaders to create that workforce, keep people in their place. And I'm not sure, I think there's obviously a lack of lack of knowledge about financial literacy or abundance amongst teachers amongst education as well.

 

Christian Rodwell  12:33  

You know, on the flip side, the education system, teachers have enough already right to be teaching children. So one might say that it's not really the role of the schools. It's the role of the parents, and what are the thoughts on that?

 

Speaker 3  12:46  

I get that. And I think that there are some incredible, so many teachers in this country are absolutely brilliant heroes for what they do on a day in day out basis, and they're being let down by the system and children are being let down. Now, when it comes to families, yes, it's great if you've got that supportive family, but what if you haven't got that supportive family? Like none of us choose where we're born. And that was the issue that that I had was, these families absolutely loved their children, but maybe they didn't have the knowledge or the expertise to teach their children. And so what do we do about that about those children? So that's why I'm so passionate about about being in schools, but I'm also really passionate about right, how can we get this message to as many people as possible and when we support the family's financial situation, and when they teach those lessons on then then everyone benefits because we know that the relationship between financial income and and health outcomes,

 

Christian Rodwell  13:38  

and the link as well between income and life expectancy isn't there. It's quite complex.

 

Speaker 3  13:43  

But basically, the the more income the family has, the greater access they have to health care, the more likely they are to have healthier lifestyles through access to gyms and healthy eating less stress in their lives, because they've got more freedom over choice of how they live their lives. And then obviously, they pass that knowledge down to the younger generations and continues. So it's quite complex, but they're kind of some of the main reasons be between that link between financial literacy or, or income and life expectancy.

 

Christian Rodwell  14:13  

It's been so fantastic. Just seeing your progress, Neil, over the last two or three years, and especially obviously, since you decided to leave teaching, and last year, in fact, in 2022, you were runner up, weren't you in an award financial Teacher of the Year award? Tell us about that. Yeah,

 

Speaker 3  14:29  

so that was really around kind of enrichment programmes for 12 and 13 year olds, we had this fantastic enrichment programme where children could choose what they wanted to learn about and buy. I'd take a group regularly for financial literacy, we look at entrepreneurship and start thinking about different challenges that the children could do that they're passionate about and talk about the opportunities for business. We also also introduced financial literacy into our RSCG personal development survey. uses for a year elevens. And then they'd get a kind of a lever certificate when they pick up their GCSEs just for some key information around next steps as well for that, so we've got runners up for that we end the school for 1000 pounds. And that's the strength to the by really? Yeah,

 

Christian Rodwell  15:15  

that's pretty good. And obviously when we were working together, you know, looking at the wealth words for families programme initially and looking at age appropriate lessons, because we've got young children, obviously, five years old, up to young adults, 25 years old, and the lessons are going to be very different, aren't they? And any thoughts on when you feel is an age that's really impressionable that you can start to have these conversations with with children. Some

 

Speaker 3  15:40  

of the evidence is about your habits developed by the age of seven. We want to start early like my little girl, she's eight now but when when she was about four or five, we started talking about reading stories together and she loves them. I was asking her the other day what she enjoyed the most, because we've done quite a bit around financial literacy. So it's a lovely way for us to bond together really and she said that she enjoyed the stories that we read together and we now revisiting those stories. Our favourite one is Grandpa's 14 Fables by Willa Rainey. So it's a brilliant book. And we're going to reread it once we've finished a large set of books, just because the lesson so you can actually take more in as children develop that there's nothing like having a colour with the daughter and reading to her and that makes such a key difference for just reading with the kids is is huge in terms of their development, their literacy. So so that was the big thing that she really liked. But what I've tried to do with her is really try and personalise the content to what what she's interested in. So my little girl she loves fashion and beauty and ice creams, and she's created her own like business called glow up. We go on Canva we created the logo, we put a price this together and then she created a video that she sent out to my wife's family about how she was going to do this will have a set much in the England plan the Six Nations and she liked fleece the mother in law, my mother in law father in law runkles Arnie's for about 21 coin, I think it was in the end, just doing their nails, giving them a massage, stuff like that. So they're the little things that we've done and JR rises every time she has birthday, Christmas, we talk about how much you put in, in your in your junior eyes. So she knows that I put put away money for each month as well. And then I kind of give her updates. But she says that's a bit dark. But I think it's important as a parent that I'm giving her that that opportunity my son's now for so it's now getting to the point where I need to start the process with him. I think younger than four was a bit harder.

 

Christian Rodwell  17:29  

And if that rubbing off on any of her friends and what about at school, proud

 

Speaker 3  17:34  

that moment was in she had a personal development lesson. And the teacher asked what are the ways you can use money and her hand was straight up, she has been saving best give. And the teacher was very impressed. And she ended up getting hired higher than expected for progress in beers ag I'm sure it was just based on that question. And I

 

Christian Rodwell  17:55  

love that absolutely brilliant. We're talking about obviously, you've got your first book coming out. You've been working hard on this. Tell us a little bit more about that. Yeah,

 

Speaker 3  18:03  

so it's been published by scholarly it's called time to rise. It's about what schools can do to support children's mental health, mental well being. There's four parts to it. First part is about outlining kind of what the issue is. Second part is around early intervention, mental well being programmes and giving children a toolkit of self care strategies so that we can keep them thriving. The third part is around trauma informed practice and the power of relationships and how that impacts kind of life expectancy, and how we can break the cycle of childhood trauma. And then the fourth part is just kind of look into the future. What do we need from from schools, teachers, governments, families, children, to create a fantastic future for our young people?

 

Christian Rodwell  18:40  

Well, that's something we will definitely be helping to promote for you, Nealon. And I really hope you'll be speaking to some of our founding members as well about all of this inside the community.

 

Speaker 3  18:50  

Yeah, absolutely. I'm very happy to connect and chat with, with anyone that's passionate about these these areas and financial literacy.

 

Christian Rodwell  18:58  

Yeah. Now there's one word that you use a lot. And that's metacognition. Now, someone who perhaps isn't quite clear, what does that involve? Can you can you explain? Yeah, so

 

Speaker 3  19:06  

we've been a lot of developments around that in schools over maybe the last four or 556 years, really. And it's about thinking about our thinking, it's about what are the questions that we ask ourselves before we start a task? So what do I need to be successful? What strategy will I use during the task? So how, how's this going? What can I change? Is there any support I need and then reflecting after you've completed the task is how did the task go? What would I change? What would if I did it again? What would I What would I do differently? And I think it links him really well with when we when we're doing these exercises with our children around financial literacy is getting them to reflect on what goes what's going well and what's not going well. It's like, saying for the wealth builders Academy, when we're looking to build wealth is that strategy worked really well. What would I do differently? Even you and Kevin often talk about maybe, once you've done it two or three times you, you kind of refine the process and you get better and that's really what metacognition is. It's Thinking about thinking? Well,

 

Christian Rodwell  20:01  

it's amazing lessons that you are sharing and putting out there, Neil. So we're really excited for you to see this grow, to see this building developed, see you in more awards and become that Amazon Best Seller, which I'm sure won't be far away. And as I said earlier, to help our members to really understand this and be able to pass on some of these lessons to their own children.

 

Speaker 3  20:23  

Thanks so much for having me today. It's been great. And I say, very happy to reach out, you can find my website at future action.co.uk. We got loads of blogs and case studies about the work that we do in about 150 schools around the world so far. So do reach out to us if you've got children to tell your schools about us. So we're keen to help as many young people and their teachers as

 

Christian Rodwell  20:42  

we can keep up the great work. Thanks, Neil. It's Christian. Thank you. So thanks to Neil, for sharing everything that he's doing there. Congratulations to both him and to his wife, Katie, we will dive into some of those lessons that we've picked up, Kevin. But before we do that, we've had more reviews from our Trustpilot page. So I'm going to scroll through and pull out a review that's coming from David, who says building wealth is not a concept that comes naturally to most people and not something taught in school. If you were to ask many would probably say that building wealth comes from earning lots of money via a high powered job. Well, it isn't wealth building is an attitude and attitude combined with a process. And Kevin and Christian have developed the process and structured it to be available in bite sized pieces that you can access, digest and implement at your own pace. All you need is the attitude to succeed.

 

Speaker 2  21:39  

Can't argue with that. I mean, there's a whole bunch of lessons in that review right there. But thank Dave for the for the review. And I'm glad that he's getting some value. And you can clearly see Neil Type value, not just a statement about attitude and state of mind in terms of mindset, but what he's actually done with it. And I think there's a spectacular change. And I mentioned before the interview, having a business wasn't really on the radar, there was a little bit of that activity, but he never saw the intention of leaving the job of being a teacher. But now he's left the job of being a teacher to be a teacher. It's been like the bankers who create a SAS and become bank himself and they, they learn to be much more in control of their money. But from Neil's point of view, he's teaching on his own terms. And he's teaching what he's passionate about, and is teaching something that ultimately, is building an asset. And I think we've showcased before Chris, a book which we resonate with called key person of influence. Daniel Priestley user, again, a good friend of wealth builders, and we like him and his IP a lot. And talking about passion and presenting now, no disrespect intended to near right. And I'm sure he'll have a little Freestone inside when he listens back to this. But when Neil and I first started talking, and, you know, you heard Neil say, he's a public speaker is a presenter. And he is you hear the confidence in that he was less than confident. When we first started speaking. And we talked about doing some things together, online. I mean, he was very nervous and very uncomfortable, on camera and in front of people. Now, when he says natural, he's a complete natural. And I think it's brilliant to see that transformation and confidence and has changing who he feels about himself as a person, you hear the confidence, you heard him say confidence, not just in terms of the competence to essentially live a more comfortable life in a world where it is uncertain. And he talks specifically about the challenge of the increasing cost of living, but the confidence to give up a job to pursue a business, the confidence for, for him to spend the right amount of time with the children and passing them. We're imbuing them with the same passion and gradual lessons. Here, I'm really pleased for him. I couldn't thank him enough for his contribution to what he's done. On the outside. Yeah, he's so helpful, and so willing, as you even heard there, to give his time, obviously mindful that you can't give up your time. Otherwise, you'd be a fool, just helping people but but he does that so so ably and so and so well, without, without anything other than willing to be a helping hand to anybody else. Almost that imagination we find many times, Chris, if you're crossing a bridge, and you've, you've extended your hand behind you, to welcome and to help somebody else who's a little further, but you need the humility to stick your hand in front of you and say, Can you help me? And we helped him and we're glad we did. And now he's helping others and helping himself to and I think it's just great to see. Our

 

Christian Rodwell  24:52  

membership base consists of a combination of business owners and those that are currently in jobs trying to build up the asset income so it allows them To jump ship, so to speak and think's important, Kevin, that, you know, we highlight how Neil did that in a kind of calculated way, which is important and not just to sack your boss and then hope for the best, but to make sure you're building up that recurring income, that it's consistent and reliable for a period of time before you make that transition. And sometimes we see members cut down their hours. So it becomes a part time basis on their full time job and, you know, part time on their, their wealth, important lesson to make sure that you don't take that decision too lightly and too quickly.

 

Speaker 2  25:35  

While we do say, Chris, that the journey to securities probably two to three years and the journey to independence, probably five to seven, and you are building bridges. And in a sense, the gap between where you are now and where you want to be is a chasm. And you build out from that, just as you would, in engineering terms. So he built a level of recurring income to give stability, so that the jump from zero recurring income to a recurring income needed to keep the family secure, would have been too big. And for most people it is, isn't it. If you take a leap from no recurring income to needing 2000 3000 4000, whatever the security figure is, in the mind, of each of our families, there's too big a gap, and too big a risk. So building outwards, and then reaching out to people ahead of you to help build towards you, then the gap is a step. It's not massive. And that's what we do. That's what we help people do to bridge that gap ably and confidently, so they can do so and live the life that they want to live. And ultimately, of course, just as importantly, to then know how to do that. So they can do that for their own families and their own children. And we've heard from Neil, he's starting to do that, albeit, one of the eight and four, you know, but the eight year old with glow up and, you know, that sort of little business idea already and made me laugh when he talked about fleecing the family. But in reality, you know, there's a little mini entrepreneur sat in his daughter there that's burgeoning to get out and that creativity will find its way out somewhere. And

 

Christian Rodwell  27:13  

businesses come in all shapes and sizes. But if you can wake up every morning, going to work on a business that you absolutely love that you're fully passionate about, which Neil clearly is then that surely makes it all the more rewarding. I

 

Speaker 2  27:24  

want to does but of course we know that a lot of people follow their passion and business, but they don't make any money and they never get free. So they're very passionate and snares them by the fabric they construct around. And that sounds like a fancy way of saying that. Sometimes what you do, then traps you because you get too caught up into doing it. And Neil didn't do that he built it Well, I think it helps when you've got a coach that helps you a stay accountable. Be build a bridge, but see, celebrate and look where you've been. So you can look back and go all right, yeah, I've come a long way. That's important. You always do that when you're on your own. So you're trying to build that bridge on your own is tough, because your heads down, so you're not looking up and around you behind you. So I think having that support mechanism, that support and community and a coach is the best way to experience it. But as we announced recently, Chris, we've made all of our membership levels super accessible, and super affordable for anybody who wants to get started. So definitely would be great. If you put in the show notes where people could check out on our new offerings to see whether or not if you've been sitting on the fence for a little while, maybe like, perhaps need at the start, you want to start to make, make a few steps forward. For

 

Christian Rodwell  28:39  

sure, head to the wealth builders website. We've made lots of changes over the last couple of months, you can see our new membership plans, all of our podcasts, archive video recordings, lots and lots head to wealth builders.co.uk For more information, and we'll look forward to bringing more of our member success stories in forthcoming episodes. Kevin,

 

Speaker 2  28:57  

always love to see that person if we can showcase somebody every month so that we've got a nice balance of new ideas, success stories, some great people, some CEOs that we're interviewing now, lots of different exciting things to to share in 2024 And not least a fantastic experience of the cashflow game that you've been pioneering. And we're now getting some incredible numbers of people turning up to play a game and somebody said to me, I can't believe you're getting grownups to play monopoly in coming to it and paying for it. It's like, yeah, they are. But it's Monopoly with meaning, isn't it really. So if you like the Kiyosaki books, you love the cashflow game, and we give it a lot more meaning don't we? And in many ways, the UK application of some of the principles that are clearly influenced by Robert Kiyosaki are shared in the way that we do it. So we definitely have uplifted that twisted that change that but You can see some of the essences in there, which you can't argue with. It's a principle, you can only build wealth if you own assets and can't really fault his idea of doing that.

 

Christian Rodwell  30:09  

All the details of those events on the wealth builder website. So we look forward to seeing you at one of those events soon. And Kevin just talking of events. And next one is up in Newcastle. So you'll be up there, I believe in the hometown

 

Unknown Speaker  30:23  

keurbooms Calm.

 

Christian Rodwell  30:26  

So we're doing a site visit and an evening networking session. So if you're listening do head to wealth builders.co.uk forward slash events for full details. And can you recall the date you're out there, Kevin? For that one, I

 

Speaker 2  30:37  

think it's the fifth or sixth of March. And then I think we've got an event on this 17 Bonner Castle, one of our wealth builder, friends, Terry, who we did a podcast on just with recently. And then I'm heading to Birmingham to meet with a whole bunch of property members and hosts to talk about how we can all help each other. So spreading the word of wealth building. So we're really building a great family, Chris, and we hope somewhere down the line your listeners turn into family members with us because we'd love to change your life.

 

Christian Rodwell  31:10  

Yeah, and if you've enjoyed listening to today's episode, please do hit the share button. Share this with a friend, someone you think might benefit and spread the word for us. We very much appreciate that. And we'll be reading out more reviews and interviewing more of our wonderful guests and members. Next week. All right. So Kevin, we'll be back Same time, same place next week.

 

Unknown Speaker  31:31  

We will my friend and until then, see ya.

 

Speaker 1  31:37  

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