In today's episode we are joined by a WealthBuilders member, Ivor Bennett. Ivor will be talking to us about the steps he has taken by following our process to generate income from assets.
We’re introducing a new feature on WealthTalk in 2021 - monthly Member Spotlight. In this week’s episode, we welcome Ivor Bennett, our 7 Steps To Wealth member who joined the programme in August and has been a true dynamo! Today, Ivor is talking through each of the wealth-building steps he has taken so far by following our proven process for generating recurring income from assets.
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Welcome to Episode 92 of wealth talk. My name is Christian Rodwell, the membership director for wealth builders. And I'm joined a by our founder, Mr. Kevin Whalen. Hi, Kevin. Hello, Chris, good to be with you again. And welcome to February. Now, here we are. And we're introducing a new feature for wealth talk in 2021. And that is to shine a spotlight on one of our members every month. And we've got hundreds of members now, in our seven steps to wealth program. And every day in our private Facebook group, they're sharing, collaborating, and we thought it'd be great to invite them on to the podcast, to share their progress so far. And it's good to hear from them. Because you know, we talk a bit, Chris, people probably got used to our voice and the occasional guest. But you know, the people who are really, you know, taking the time taking the trouble putting their hard earned intellect, their capital, their time, into a process to create financial independence for themselves, their families, and future legacy, you know, it's great to hear their own individual dimension, what got them interested, what got them started, what was holding them back, all of the usual things, because, you know, if we were in a room full of 100, people, Chris, and we said, right, out of 100, if everybody who's interested in becoming financially independent, so you never need to work again, in a day job, you'd never need to work again, in your business, you own enough assets to be financially free for the rest of your life, who's interested in that. And you get pretty much 100 out of 100. But still, only five and 100 make it. So it's good to hear from those people who've overcome that inertia, and made a start. And it was good that you chose either as the first one because it's only been in the program for a few months now.
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And could have easily just sat still, and not done anything at all, as I'm sure you'll have pulled out from Chris in the interview. But he didn't he overcame the inertia started. And now he's well on the way to creating that plan. And he recognizes that it won't be too long at all, before he's reaching that financial security figure. Yeah, well, we know one of the big ones that holds people back is just not having enough time. And I remember when I first spoke to Ivor last year, and, you know, he had used the fact that he was in lockdown, and that he had a little bit more time to his, you know, to his benefit and and decided, Okay, if I don't make a change now, then when's it going to happen? And, you know, I'm sure he won't regret that decision one little bit. And I think that's an important lesson for all of us, really, because you know, time is always a factor, right? It's the, it's the one thing that's so much more difficult to leverage, particularly the beginning, because you're only imagining your own time.
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Later in part of the program, we show people how to leverage other people's time, but right at the start, when you're just thinking about using Well, how the heck am I going to build wealth and hold down a very successful full time job, which is one of the questions I had to ask himself.
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And he looked at it and thought, hold on a minute, I need to do this, and he will explain why he needed to do it. But I think it's a very powerful thing, that you just need to make the decision to get started. Because once that happens, momentum, just takes it all over. And there's so much education support, and connections that we offer, Chris, that inevitably, you know, we're always there to make sure people don't get stuck. And and that's another fear, isn't it that people feel a bit overwhelmed. And there's too much choice. And as a result, again, they stay in it. And that's what we're hoping to inspire other people to maybe do something about their own wealth building. Yeah. And we've broken everything down into a step by step holistic process that teaches people how to generate recurring income from assets. And in the conversation with Ivor in a moment, I'll be talking through those steps. And if you can't visualize it, then last week, we did invite you to download a copy of the recurring revenue roadmap, which lays out those steps. And if you haven't got a copy of that already, then you can get a copy and actually book a call with me if you'd like to have a chat just to see how well Phil may be able to help you heading over to wealth builders.co.uk forward slash roadmap. So if you haven't got a copy, download that now. And should we have listened to the conversation reviver? Let's do it
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either. Welcome back to wealth talk today.
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Hi, Christian. How are you? Yeah, I'm really, really good. Thanks.
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Now, I know you've already paid on wealth talk earlier in your wealth building journey. But a new feature that we're introducing to wealth talk now, it's just a spotlight on some of our members and the great work that they're doing within the community, and you've had a really great start to 2021. In fact, you've been on fire pretty much since he joined wealth builders either. So so we're going to hear about some of those things. And in particular, we're just going to really walk through the process together, right, and see what those steps are and how they all tie in together, and you can't really skip any of it. And so let's begin then, you know, I guess back at the beginning for everyone, there's a reason why. And you know, some people have a stronger catalyst than others. But was there a point when you sort of decided, right, I need to do something about this? Yeah, I think my my reason why I started off probably a couple years ago now when
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my old manager, and he had been working for it was in the financial institution for a number of years. And he showed me his pension figure. And that really gave me a bit of a kick, because my pension isn't, it was nowhere near his figures. And so that was the first part of the reason why, to start to realize, well, if I continue doing on the same path, then I'm not going to be able to survive as I get to, you know, certain age. And
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so that was the first reason why the second part was when we kind of got into the first lockdown. And I started to think, well, I can sit back and do nothing to be locked down, or I can, or I can really push on and use this to my advantage. So I took the latter and decided that that was the starting point for me to start my look it up. The reason why Why'd I want to be successful and financially independent.
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And then overlaid that with a journey for my, for my family, and I really want to make sure that the kids are also on that path. So it's kind of a mixture of, you know, making sure we're okay. In later on in life, myself, and my wife took almost all cases, my job now is to make sure the kids have got a really good starting point. And they understand how to both build as well. So I have a when you were out there and kind of looking how to start What made you choose wealth builders specifically?
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Oh, yeah, good question. It goes Christian, um, two things for me. First one was around, you know, not having any hard sell. So no pressure to sell. And, and it was a case of, I really understood that yourself, you know, wealth building community, what you wanted to help, you know, be be successful. So that was the main one, there wasn't any real, heavy sale sales tactics. So that was, that made me quite comfortable with the whole process. And then the second reason, I just found listening to the podcast. So again, anyone that may be on the fence or hasn't decided whether to join wealth builders, I would suggest, just go and listen to the podcasts, you'll get loads of free information, you know, that you can listen to act upon, if you if you choose, and then you will feel like you know, Kevin and Christian by the end of it. Step two, then is what we call the wealth gap. And that's really the five levels of wealth. So at the beginning, you got to get clear on where you are where you want to get to, right. So talks about those five levels. So financial securities, when 95% of the population I you know, relying on one source of income, it's normally a job or you know, in other cases can just be a business, but it's always risky when when you rely on one so the only way to change that, of course is to is to build asset income. Right. So, so you started that journey. So So did you set your targets? And you know, what, what, what levels you kind of moving towards at the moment either? Yeah, so I was quite easy because I was I was in the 95%. So zero from reoccurring income coming in other than my, my day job, and so that the baseline was zero. And it was interesting, just going through the program to start really working out. Because in your own head, you think that you need x amounts of money to survive. But when you really start going through the program, what's really good is it you know, you can get really detailed on how much you really need to earn. And, you know, I've kind of set mine, it started off at quite high, it was probably 7000. And then I really stripped it down even more. Now 4000 is the level that I'd like to be at that gives me some security.
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And that's what I'm tracking towards at the moment. Yeah, brilliant. Excellent. Then step three. So these first three steps are all kind of our sort of stage one in in process and it's all about building confidence is getting that peace of mind and one of the key elements there is making sure you're protected. And, you know, we've got the roof we've talked about the roof process. There's also Debbie
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that falls within this as well. So just making sure you know, you're on top of what money is coming in and going out. And then obviously making sure that you've got everything protected for yourself, your family and your assets. So, so, you know, tell us a little bit about that stage. Yeah, the debits was a good good stage for me.
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I didn't actually find anything out that I didn't know. And, again, some people might, this might be really groundbreaking for them, it was actually quite nice for, for myself, because I found out that I was doing everything correct. Anyway, so I had a good handle on what was coming in and what's going out. And so I didn't really have to change anything, but but again, it is a good tick box to at least you know, you're on the right path. And then if we add the roof to, to this, this is where I was exposed massively, you know, the wheel that we had in place wasn't to fish.
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We, you know, we never had any interest. So I would say that the roof is a really big part of, of wealth building. And I think where it sits in the program is just right, it's, if you are starting out wealth building, like myself, it's just at the right time where you can start to make sure you've got, you know, debits and your roof protected for you. You're about to start that journey. Yeah. So we're moving through the recurring revenue roadmap, we're on stage two now, which is building your knowledge. So step four of the process is assets. So we obviously have a very unique, and, you know, piece of IP, which is our Seven Pillars of wealth. So how did you obviously you've mentioned, you're already in property, but tell us about kind of the overview of those seven areas and how you kind of decided which one you were going to focus on. Yeah, I've got a natural passion for property anyway, we've, we've been kind of sitting on the sidelines, for a number of years, debating whether it's to get into the buy to let market we've just never done that we've kind of used our own personal house to, to move up the ladder that way and to create equity and our our own rent main residence.
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So the property is natural for me, that was always going to be the first one that I was going to choose. And then to overlay that with our pensions. So my wife's got a final salary pension, I've got a couple of pages. And so it just felt like that was a good place to start. And then as the more you understand how to wealth through the creating a suspension along the property journey, they just fit hand in hand together. So they were the two colors I chose. Yeah. And that moves us nicely into Step five, which is leverage and, you know, financial leverage that you found within your pension there to work really nicely with the the property pillar. So yeah, any other points of leverage that that you can think of either that you've tapped into? Yeah, well, I think that just the refinance. So being able to tap into the finance, the equity within your main residence is, is really key. So that's enabled me to start the property journey. Yeah. Excellent. And step six, then is strategy. So which strategy Have you decided to focus on? So that was, that's probably the most challenging areas, I think, as you choose property, there's so many different areas. And, and what's really helped me is I, I, you know, I decided to get educated. And I think that's really key for anyone that wants to invest in property, as a,
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as a business as a wealth building. pillar. So I invested in some training. And that enabled me to focus at the moment within the single market, as well as HMOs, where I'm looking at but at the moment is really just focusing on single x. Yeah, you're one step ahead of me, either, because focus is the next step. Right. So we're now moving into stage three, which is building assets. So stage three is when you've got a plan in place, you know, you've chosen your pillar, you've chosen your strategy, you know, where your points of leverage are, you're focusing in the right direction, based on your wealth dynamics, you've got your roof, all of this is in place. It's now time to focus, right? And this is where we teach the wheel of wealth. And finally, opponents and education is that first step. So how important is the word focus before you are massively? Yeah, yeah, you just can't underestimate the once you've got a clear plan, and then you've got to focus.
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The power and the leverage you get from that is just phenomenal for me. And I've been able to tap into that as as much as possible. So, and, again, I think Kevin's mentioned it before as it's really the turning the wheel, but the start is really quite difficult is can can be time consuming. But I'm finding that once now I've gone through these cycles. It's becoming easier. Yeah. Yeah, that's absolutely true. Yeah. Great. So moving into step eight, and this is results. So we send out a wealth chart to all of our members when when they join and unknown.
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We had a joke, then we I vote because you had downloaded so many things from us that you kind of turned into your wealth wall and you've got things circled over places. Yeah. So. So you know, you have to focus. And let's talk about results. And so you've had a cracking month for a couple of months Even so, so what's been happening? Yeah, so the, I guess the first buy to let is now generating relevant to 40
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to 40 worth of income each month,
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which is great. So that's a starting point. And I've just been able to refinance that first buy to let, which should allow me to move on to another deal. And we secure just before Christmas, we secure a second bite of debt, which will be a three bedroom house that we're going to convert the downstairs garage into a bedroom, and a downstairs shower room. So that again, hopefully actually produce some work, we will give me a rant about six 700 pound a month. And then on Monday, secure down third by today. And similar property, we'll do another garrison version. And again, achieve a roundabout similar figures. So you know, marking off the chart, as we say, so really good to have that we can have that wealth chart every every day as well, it's really good. Yeah, well, we send out two pens with the chart, a black and a red, and the red pen is there to to update that thermometer. So hopefully that's filled in now. Yeah, perfect. Good. Well, we are moving through nicely. And the final step is accelerate your way towards financial independence. So obviously, there's a little way to go. And, you know, this is not an overnight process. This is a journey that for most people to move from insecurity to financial independence, you know, will take anywhere between sort of three to seven years. And so in terms of getting you further forwards, Ivor, and what do you see as being really important? What do you see as you know, the the aspects that will help you to keep accelerating and building upon everything you've done already?
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Yeah, I think the, the key there, I think what we've got within
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the group is the community, I think that the community is really, really powerful, to be able to see the results of other people, and everyone's on a different stage of wealth building. And what I love about the program is, you know, it doesn't matter what stage you're at, everyone's there to help you out. And I think the more when you use the, the communities, to them, you're going to get out of the program and accelerate your, your wealth will be doing as well. Yeah, that's brilliant. And any other tips at all, either before I let you go, and those people who are you know, at the start, or just not sure whether, you know, this is the right path for them to take?
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I would say if anyone, is
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what we'll build is about, I think, just having a structure is a really well laid out structure. And it's easy to follow, and simple steps. You know, that's, that's one key for you, if you'd like structure, and you're not sure even how to attempt to start with building then the program gives you gives you that, that guidance. And then
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what I would like to also mentioned is the, even if you do the program and and you know, you don't get the results straight away, but if you can just action on the roof, and the debits i think that's that's really amazing. You know, just making sure that you've got whatever wealth you have protected, and just making sure you've got your wills in place and, and anything can trust then I think that's a really good starting point. Yeah, thank you so much. I really appreciate you sharing all of that with us today. And look forward to inviting you back when you hit your next milestone. So thanks a lot, Christian.
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Well, congratulations to either there that was really interesting listening to his progress so far. But before we dive into that, Kevin, let's head on over to trustpilot and share one of our latest reviews that's come in over the past seven days and we're gonna pick Francisco and he says cannot recommend Kevin and his team at wealth builders more highly from helping me with all aspects of setting up my SAS to the invaluable insight and experience they have given me along the way. All aspects of the trust the admin service and also has also been spot on and they've introduced me to a wealth of experts who share ideas and insight willingly with the aim of helping everyone in their community get the most from their SAS and achieve financial independence. Very nice.
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Otherwise known as Frankie, actually, he's just a gem of a gentleman and known him for quite a while
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and delighted you decided to join the program when he had a gap in his life and decided the time was right so you know very, very grateful to to have Frankie in the program. Yeah.
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Kevin, you remember Episode Two, the three days? So if you would pick a day five, which one do you think it would go for?
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Well, he's definitely a dynamic now, isn't he? I mean, look, he's he's an action taker, you can tell by as well dynamic, you can tell by the fact he's now got the bit between his teeth, isn't he he's overcome the inertia. And now momentum is, is taken over. And you can see the ways he's brought some of the essential ingredients in the program together as and he really found the, he found the reason why he's identified the figure that he needs to at least become financially secure. And we know he's got to figure for financial independence as well. He's identified the starting strategy, and he's worked out well where the money is going to come from. And but before he did all that, you know, he took stock of where he was realized his family was his top priority, and protected his roof. And this is really important. You know, a lot of people think you should protect or they get to protection. Too late, you know, anybody who knows, my story, knows, my father, who was a business owner, died relatively young, 46 years of age, he thought he was immortal, you know, he thought, Well, you know, I'm building. So while I'm building, I'm going to focus on the building the building. But unfortunately, he died with no will, with no live cover with nothing to protect and safeguard the business. So all of that building was on sand. And that was regrettable, lamentable, and certainly a big catalyst in my life to do better not just for myself, but to help others not fall into the same trap. And that's why we put the roof really early on in the program, Chris. So it was interesting, and actually somewhat gratifying to hear him say, just the peace of mind that he got from that not necessarily a financial result, but the peace of mind for taking care of his family. As he begins the journey was valuable enough for, you know, the investment you made in the program. And, you know, that's just very powerful to me. Yeah. And you have that wake up call right at the beginning Didn't he mentioned when he kind of saw his managers pension, and realized, if he just keeps on that same track, it's not going to get him to where he wants to be. And I think, you know, that is a point that many people realize, and you just have to take that first step. And that first step is often overwhelming people, then lead to too much information. And that's what also holds a lot of people back, which is, you know, why having a clear plan is really the only way and just to then execute on that plan, as we've had either doing. And, and, you know, and he's sticking to his, the process, you know, he's recognizing, look, I was a very successful full time employee, okay.
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Very successful at that. So he's done a great job of earning a living. But he recognized that, you know, you can earn lots of money in a job, but it doesn't guarantee wealth, because the job is insecure, the pension is insecure, and didn't have enough diversification going on. So, you know, by by being willing and being humble enough, and I think that's a skill
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that he wouldn't say of himself, but I'll say off him, that he has the humility to say, Hey, I don't know everything about this. And I'm open minded to receiving help. So he's not a DIY, you know, he's asking for help. And not just asking with the review, to receiving what I would say about Ivor and why we picked him out to spotlight on either is either as one of those people who gives back to the community. So he's always willing to share he's always willing to post. He's so committed to being not just received a taker, but a giver. And I think that bodes well for wealth building, because I think the other values that I that, that I think people who try and build wealth on their own don't get is there's no more powerful thing than being involved in a creative, entrepreneurial sharing network. The community in the collaboration, not just comes out from either, but comes out every single day in our groups and comes out in the
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the mentorships, and things that we do, Chris, and the way that people are just sharing information with each other. And we're seeing that literally every day now, because we've got so many people in the community. And I would say it's just so much joy to be created from sharing than trying to do everything on your own and be actually lonely on your wealth building journey. You know, it's there to be shared and, and I think I was just brilliant of that. And I think that's important. So recognizing the value in community and being willing to receive being humble
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Not to receive, but being open enough to give as well. And I think he's done an outstanding job of that. And I commend him for it. Yeah. And Step five, right at the heart of our recurring revenue roadmap is the word leverage. And it's the key to building wealth. We've done an episode of this in the past, and I've used good leverage, he talks about obviously, you know, looking at pillar one, which is home capacity, using some of the equity there, and also leveraging his pension, which is pillar two, and that is now allowing him to build his property portfolio, which is pillar four. Yeah, and just a word on the pension, right, because we hear a lot in the program. And if people listen to a few podcasts, the word SAS, the small, self administered scheme, which is really a pension that comes to life, because people could control it, and make it a part of their wealth building journey, and a part of their future, not a part of the past. But let's be clear here, Chris, anybody who's got a pension here in the UK, or overseas, anybody can do better. And to do better, is definitely a call to action I would have for everyone. So if you've got a pension, and you are using it in some way, then either reduce your costs, you know, in the UK, you could do that in a very low cost, CIP, reduce your costs, because you can, and that will improve your performance, even if you don't leverage it on your wealth right now. Or if you're eligible, you know, look into, which means having a business, a limited company, or an LLP, you know, don't need to get into the details of that, but some corporate structure around your wealth, then, you know, you can look at the difference between
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just simply reducing costs to drive better returns, or learning how you can improve your performance by learning more. And that's one of the things we know that either we'll be doing in his pension, which would be some form of collaboration, what we often call a lend and learn. So he will lend money like a bank, to somebody with good due diligence, and good rigor behind that. But we'll be learning how to do something else, you know, that will equip him to achieve a higher ROI for himself. And, and this is really important too, because, again, different to the DIY, if you learn how to become better, then your ROI will go up. So rather than this being risky, the more capable you become, the more confident you become, the more connected, you become, you know, any question you've got out there any question of your own? How do I do this, there's somebody in the community that we've sought out and built relationships with that can show you how, and that's the whole value of the doing this in a kind of joined up way, rather than doing it in a sort of a, you know, a piece by piece, like a jigsaw puzzle with odd pieces, but not ever seen the lead of the jigsaw puzzle. And I think what you've created Chris, with the recurring revenue roadmap is the lid of the jigsaw puzzle. And I would encourage anybody to download that, so that they can get an insight into that, whether they connect or collaborate with us or not, it will be valuable to get the sight of how to do this properly. Yeah, head to wealth builders.co.uk forward slash roadmap, if you haven't got a copy of that, and you can have a look exactly at what we've been talking about today. And you could hear there, as Ivor was moving through those steps, how his confidence was building, as you said earlier, the peace of mind there with getting the roof in place. And then building knowledge, which is learning about which pillar, you're gonna focus on which strategy and then where's your leverage coming from. And, and then, you know, moving into that third stage of the roadmap, which is all about building assets, and that's where you have to focus. And we teach the wheel of wealth, which is very unique process, no matter what asset or strategy you're focusing on, you turn the wheel every time and that will guide you safely through to decide whether that is the right strategy that you wish to follow or not. And for either, he chose the Brr by refurb refinance and turn the first wheel, and that's now generating 240 pounds a month. So his thermometer is rising, he's filled that in, and then he's been able to leverage that refinance, allowing him to get his second property. And we will say three turns of the wheel Kevin, you really start to know what you're doing by that point. Yeah, I mean, look, anytime you do the first time you do anything new, think about it, driving your car, think about it, riding your bike when you were a kid. Think about anything you do. The first time you do it is probably not your best. Because you're learning You know, you're still a bit clunky at it. Then you do it and you've learned the lessons from the first and the second time you better than the first and
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The third time, pretty much if you've chosen a wealth strategy, from our experience, once someone has turned that wheel three times educate, support, connect due diligence, and then the guidance and the action of taking the things in the right order and sequence. That's the wheel of wealth really articulated in the sentence. Once you do that three times, you pretty much know what you're doing. And that should give you the confidence to then turn a bigger and a stronger wheel, like going through the gears in a car, Chris. So you move from gear one, you know, gear one will get you to where you want to get to, but it's going to be slower. If you imagine trying to drive where I'm from, if I'm trying to drive from London, to Newcastle, when I go and see my mother on 80th birthday this year,
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you know, I'll be doing that. But I won't be driving in first gear, right, because I would get there, you know, 350 miles, but it would take a long time, it'd be hard work. And it'd be very noisy and clunky. So you have to go through the gears. So usually one or two turns of the will move on to a better gear, one or two turns of the will move on to a better gear. So you don't have to know everything, you don't go from first to seventh in a car, you'd kill the engine. So you can't do that. And you can't do that new wealth wins. What we try and do is slow people down. I don't know if I've ever mentioned that. But many people do. As they say that one of the things that we do in a program is slow people down, but keep the momentum up. That way they make slow, steady progress. That is still steady enough. I mean, most people can achieve financial independence within five years. And by the end of year one. No, he's not there yet. But the app by the end of year one, you'll certainly be halfway to security. And then by the end of year two, he'd be secure by the end of year three, you know, he'll be onwards and upwards. Because as I said, he'll be accelerating you won't be going at the same pace. That's the natural progress of people who are in a program as opposed to doing things on their own in a kind of DIY way. Think you got the message, Chris. I'm saying don't DIY your way to wealth. Yeah, absolutely. So congratulations again to I have the wheels most definitely turning. And he's one of many in our community. And it's always a difficult choice. And we'll definitely shine the spotlight once again on another member next month. So yeah, if you again, if you'd like to get a copy of our recurring revenue roadmap, head on over to wealth builders.co.uk forward slash roadmap, and whilst you're online, tapping away, why not head to trustpilot as well. And leave us a review if you've been enjoying listening to these podcasts. Yeah, and thanks, Bruce, for hosting that and getting the best out of the interview with either and I look forward to, you know, it'd be interesting to see who we choose next time, someone different stages their journey, possibly turning a different wheel, or certainly a different strategy. And let's see the lessons we can share that, indeed, well, we'll be back again, and we'll see you Same time, same place next week. Okay, until next time, everyone. See ya.
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