In today's episode we are joined by a WealthBuilders Academy member, Sam White. Sam discusses with us his experience of working with WealthBuilders and the results he has achieved working todays financial independence.
In this month’s spotlight, we welcome Sam White. Sam is a property investor/developer based on the Isle of Wight, and he has been a member of our programme for almost two years now. He discusses his experience of working with WealthBuilders and the results he has achieved so far as he moves closer towards financial independence.
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Unknown Speaker 0:01 The purpose of wealth talk is to educate, inform, and hopefully entertain you on the subject of building your wealth. Wealth builders recommends you should always take independent financial tax or legal advice before making any decisions around your finances.
Christian Rodwell 0:19
Welcome to Episode 96 of wealth talk. My name is Christian Rodwell, the membership director for wealth builders. And I'm joined today by our founder, Mr. Kevin Whalen. Hi, Kevin. Hello, Chris.
Unknown Speaker 0:28
Good to be with you again on episode 96.
Christian Rodwell 0:31
Here we are. And it's another month, which means another spotlight on one of our members who has been in our seven steps 12 program. And today we've chosen to focus on Sam white. And Sam is one of our founding members who joined back in May 2019. And I think it's really clear from the beginning when we met Sam Kevin, he's a guy who sets pretty high goals for himself, and almost always achieves them. And he talks today about setting a goal of achieving financial independence. And, and he's he's pretty much on his way towards hitting that one as well.
Unknown Speaker 1:11
Yeah, but in a strange way, you know, Sam is a bit of a, a maverick, you can tell that, you know, sort of a high flyer, literally, somebody who loves you know, the finer things in life in many ways, and fair enough for that. But I think he came to the program, sort of in its in its good one to focus on Chris, I think he chose well, because he sort of did things slightly out of sync. Which is great, because it shows that the the program has validity, and can create value, wherever you are wherever your starting point in the journey. And as you hear Sam, talk about what he does, and the occasional write comment about I'm going to be told off by Kevin is interesting, isn't it when grown people think of me or the headmaster? It's a bit of an odd one. But yeah, he does eventually start to sort of reconfigure himself and and the way that we teach and, and I think he's now a really great case study to show that he's made some changes along the way.
Christian Rodwell 2:16
Yeah. And I guess we must remember as well, Kevin, when we launched the foundation program, we didn't have such a clear nine step roadmap as we do today. And of course, we're gonna be talking through that as I speak to Sam. So if you don't yet have a copy of the roadmap, do head on over to wealth builders.co.uk forward slash roadmap, and you can download that. And yeah, have a look at that. As you listen to our interview with Sam white today. Sam, welcome to wealth talk.
Unknown Speaker 2:45
Hi, Christian. Thanks very much for having me on.
Christian Rodwell 2:47
I know you're very welcome. And we're shining the spotlight on on you this month. And you are one of our founding members. So joined back in May 2019. I think it was
Unknown Speaker 2:57
Yeah, that sounds about right, indeed.
Christian Rodwell 2:59
Good. So you've been making some really good progress, Sam, and be great to hear your journey. And what we're going to do just going to kind of walk through our roadmap that we teach in the seven steps to wealth program, just go through steps and kind of see how things have worked out for you and share some of those lessons with our listeners. Okay, yeah,
Unknown Speaker 3:16
sounds good.
Christian Rodwell 3:17
So step one is obviously the mindset step. So it's really getting clear on your why So was there a particular catalyst or a point that you can remember back to Sam where you set yourself up just got to take control and do something about my wealth
Unknown Speaker 3:31
not so much take control, because I always thought life was more about there's more to life than working for money. But I'd set myself up fairly well already life was pretty cool. I had a job that I loved I had a good lifestyle. It was more a case of a wonder what I'm capable of, rather than a catalyst to sort of get involved and I realized that most things I really set my mind to in life I achieved and I don't mean that to sound braggy it's just a really set my mind to really committed myself to I achieved all of those. And my my main job was as an airline pilot and I was flying back one day from from South Africa so 35,000 feet middle of the night over Africa, and I sat down i thought you know what, I have achieved everything I've really set my mind to I wonder what would happen if I set my mind to becoming for the one of the better word rich at that point. And I have now worked out that's not really what I meant. I mentioned more financially free but so that was the sort of catalyst was really how I could push myself and and how the hell do you go about doing that? As opposed to a real particular reason for the change? Hmm.
Christian Rodwell 4:46
And can you remember back then, you know how you first came across wealth builders, and what was it that made you decide to join the program?
Unknown Speaker 4:54
Yeah, absolutely. Well, I found that it was a really lonely path. Once I've set that Go, I couldn't really talk to anyone about it, because everyone I spoke to would look at me in a really odd manner. And I very quickly learned, I couldn't speak to many people. It's known down the pub, and even the sort of the high earners the guys I was sat next to in in the flight deck of aircraft, they're you know, they're high earning their tax dodging, they're their toy, they live abroad, should I say they are they own Ferrari these guys? And yeah, I turn around and have a conversation about the fact that I wanted to push myself and become financially free. And they'd look at me and they'd sort of look at me really oddly and say, well, money is the root of all evil when your debts a really bad thing. And I couldn't understand why even these guys that have money, or that have pa ye money, still store, someone striving to become financially free is almost a bad thing. So I want you to really get with a community that had similar aspirations and similar goals. So I could share my journey with those people and have peers to talk to and and that sort of led me to into road builders.
Christian Rodwell 6:06
Yeah, great. So it's clear, I think, you know, since since we first met you, Sam, that you know, you have a strong mindset. And you said, obviously, when you set a goal, you know, you you often do achieve it. So then the next step is really getting clear on you know, what is that gap between where you are and where you want to get to, and we call that obviously, the wealth gap. And it's all about the five levels of wealth. So when you join sandwich level, where you are, and, and kind of where I now,
Unknown Speaker 6:30
oh, well, I was quite fortunate, I was financially secure when I came to wealth builders, that that doesn't mean to say I've had an easy journey before that. But when I actually came to our fields, I was fairly secure by adjusting my spending accordingly. by driving old cars, etc, I could afford my lifestyle if my job was lost. But since then, my lifestyle has got slightly better. As you can imagine, I really enjoy sailing and racing yachts. So that's quite an expensive hobby to have. So although I started financially secure, I'm still financially secure. So I haven't really jumped up through the levels, my expectations, I suppose, have increased. My final numbers of, of what I would class as being financially free, are probably quite high. But in truth, I haven't moved through the levels as such. But there's personal reasons for that, when I joined wealth builders, I was just starting out a quite a large commercial to residential development project. So all my money was going into that, and there was never going to be in return until the end. So my thermometer was never going to go up until the end of the project. We're just kind of coming to the end of that, that's the project finished, I haven't had my cash back out, but the project is finished. So in a way, I've increased my potential monthly asset income without actually really increasing my asset income. And what I mean by that is when the next run of funding comes through, then I've got the capacity to be able to go out if I wanted to, and just by vanilla by two laps. And that would probably probably take me into financial freedom where I want to be,
Christian Rodwell 8:19
yeah, no, that's great. Okay, so the final step in the foundation phase is step three, which is about the foundational element, which we call debits. So that's just really just reviewing and taking stock of the money that's going out of your life and just seeing if you can, you know, look at that and reallocate it. And the other aspect is the roof, Sam, which is about protection of assets. So, did you move through that? And did you have any observations and in that area?
Unknown Speaker 8:45
Yeah, I'm gonna get a phone call from Kevin after this telling me off. It honestly that I came into wealth builders, again, with a fairly good understanding of what I needed. I didn't have the structure that you guys have given me, but I had fairly good understanding. So my my debits process had been done. It wasn't called a debit process. It was just called, I didn't want loads of baggage in my in my in my financial life. So I got rid of a lot of that baggage. And then there's other things, you know, I spend a lot of money on boats and surfboards and skateboards and windsurfing, and all the rest of it. And I probably wouldn't change that, even if it was highlighted how much I would do spend on it. So I didn't go through it diligence as diligently as I potentially should have done. But that's potentially a reflection of where I was when I found wealth builders as opposed to the process. It is a great process and it needs doing, but I think I was kind of already there when it went up when I joined.
Christian Rodwell 9:47
Yeah. Okay, so the foundation is in place, Sam and then we move into phase two. That's all about building knowledge and obviously, specifically around the assets that are available to build wealth. So step four is assets. So which Did you already have some experience with when you joined and which other pillars Have you been able to utilize since
Unknown Speaker 10:07
property property had been my pillar long before I referred to it as a pillar, I'd kind of been playing around with property. Since about 2006, I bought my first places 100% buy to let mortgage having just got my secured my first proper airline job. So I've been in property and had quite a good knowledge of property in more recent years, but again, before finding wealth builders, I already had a SAS, I used it to lend. And I'd also used it for loan backs. So the SAS area was ticked, but again, to do with property. And then home capacity wise we've got we're lucky enough to live in the Isle of Wight, it's a beautiful place, and we get lots of visitors. So using that we set up a holiday let on the side of the house. So we the home capacity, I guess was already ticked as well. Before I sort of came in to wealth builders, so that's what I really had experience on. So a few of the different pillars, but all really pointing towards property. And again, jayvees that I've done in the past, were property related. Um,
Christian Rodwell 11:20
you mentioned the either way, we're actually recording this with video as well. So anyone listening to the podcast on audio, definitely do head to the wealth builders, website or Facebook group. And you've got the see in the background, Sam, and it looks it dilek
Unknown Speaker 11:35
Yeah, it's one of those things that I've always wanted to live by the sea, it's me, I'm a lifestyle person. And then we found a derelict house. So again, because of my experience in property, when I saw a derelict house on the waterfront in the Isle of Wight that needed completely gutting the roof off and a complete rebuild, it didn't faze me. And then I added the bonus of it had an area that I could use as a, as a holiday let so the mortgage would be covered, even if I lost my job. So there's the little things like that. So the real knowledge of property helped me to be able to secure my, you know, lifelong dream of living right on the waterfront. And if you are looking at the videos, you can see I'm on the decking area over the front of the house at the moment in my front garden, with the sea around me, and it's really it's, it's my journey has kind of led me here. And I'm very pleased to be here.
Christian Rodwell 12:33
Yeah. Well, you mentioned there a key point of wealth building, which is leverage. So you know, you you found some ways to obviously look at the space and the land around you. And, and and use that to to greater effect. So you know, how important is leverage when it comes to wealth building some and it's not just financial leverage, you can obviously have intellectual leverage relationships and your time as well,
Unknown Speaker 12:59
is hugely important, absolutely massively important. I can't stress that enough. Leverage is in different forms, you absolutely rightly say, I think, leverage, first of all, people think about borrowing bank's money and using that there's a financial leverage. But really, the people you've got around, you can add so much into your journey, and really make your journey a lot easier than it is on your own. Now I'm on my own worst nightmare, where this has been a constant battle. For me, as an airline pilot, I'm used to knowing all the different elements, I know, the science behind why the aircraft stays in the air, I know how the engines work, I know what my cabin crew are doing. And when you start knowing all the different elements, it's very easy for you to fall into being the person that does it not on an aircraft but in property. So I've got a tool belt, and I'm normally found with a hammer in my hand on my properties, backing up the tradesmen that I've got working for me. Now, that's really something that's been a battle to try and get away from that and be more dynamic and more professional instead of sort of a DIY, as Kevin say.
Christian Rodwell 14:08
Okay, so moving into Step six then which is really focusing on a strategy. And we've talked about the property pillar talks about, you know, the importance of using leverage. So what's been the strategy that's helped you to move up the levels.
Unknown Speaker 14:23
The strategy has been his property, it's all in property and mainly recycling of deposits. Getting my money out of being able to start again, there's been obviously there's always a finite amount of money and really making the most of that. And that's been the hard work bit, I think, a strategy. Again, it's a personal thing. It's different to everybody. But if I spread myself too thin, any point I don't think I would have been able to accelerate myself through to to sort of the next project. And holding on to the one after. So accepting a slower rate of change in my financial life. And but really making sure that once I finished that project, I can pull my money back out to be able to use that then on the next on the next one.
Christian Rodwell 15:16
Hmm. So we're talking kind of byte alerts, and also some service accommodation. Sorry, absolutely.
Unknown Speaker 15:22
So by terlet, has been the main backbone, and then recently, moving into more residential, commercial to residential development and build two legs, I'm not selling at the end. So they are effectively built to let but repurposing old High Street buildings. And that's somewhere that I'm moving further and further into, I can really see a huge push towards getting different and underutilized High Street and commercial buildings up and running again, and filling that gap of accommodation that the country massively needs.
Christian Rodwell 16:04
Okay, so we talked about the importance of getting the foundation in place right at the beginning, getting the right mindset really clear on you know, what the gap is, and then getting all of the protection in place as well. We've just talked about understanding the seven different ways to build wealth, the use of leverage, and then choosing a strategy. So now we move into phase three of our roadmap. And phase three is really about taking action, it's building assets is the implementation. And step seven is focus. So this is where we really talk about the importance of following the wheel of wealth within the program, Sam, and that will have got five, five stages, it's Firstly, education, then good support, the right connections, doing your due diligence, and then taking guided action. And our wealth coaches are there every month to to help you stay laser focused, and to turn that wheel. So what benefit Sam have you gained from following that process and having that monthly accountability?
Unknown Speaker 17:02
Well, starting at the beginning of the educational phase, some of the the links that you guys have got, and the the links the connections to people, being able to have people suggesting other courses, etc, other ways of, of bettering your education has been massively helpful to me, and it led me on to another a lot of educational courses that I've completed. And then the at the end of the wheel, so to speak, your, your accountability and, and having an avenue coach, well, the wealth buddy groups, I've got a great buddy group, we we really push each other forward. Without we've never I don't think anybody's ever mentioned the word accountability in the body group. However, there's never been a need to you talk to these guys, they're really dynamic, that they're all on it. And you don't want to be the one left behind. So you know, there is that accountability without even the need to spelling out accountability. It's been a really useful process that and, and having the the wealth coach as well, it's, I found it quite a lonely journey, the building wealth, and that's what I've always been striving for is just someone as a sounding board to be able to bounce ideas off. And I think it's immensely powerful to have that person and have that meeting once a month to be able to talk through anything that's bothering you, and just have a different take on it. You know, I considered answer, without any gain from them. They're not leading you in any particular direction. I think that's been massively important.
Christian Rodwell 18:45
Yeah. And we were actually on the q&a session with me last night with with the other members, Sam, and you were sharing on there, and it's just so good to hear what everyone is up to every month and feel like you've got that community and people, you know, supporting one another. And the you mentioned, it's a lonely journey. And I think a lot of people feel that way. So yeah, I'm pleased to hear that.
Unknown Speaker 19:06
As you say, last night, Christine, I was meant to be going off that call and go into another call and educational call that I've been having on a group that another group that's on a Thursday night. And I actually I don't know if you noticed, I left the the meeting and went away. And I was watching the other call when I just thought you know what, I'm going to go back to wealth builders, because I, it felt a little bit like, you know, chicken soup, so think it was really comforting to be back in the wealth builders at the end of month call. So I came back online, and if you notice that I appeared back online. Oh, yeah. It feels like a really natural place for someone who is after that connectivity and should have a bit of a backup on your journey.
Christian Rodwell 19:52
Yeah. Okay. So the wheels are turning, we're cruising now step eight is results and, you know, one of the reasons why we can't Highlighted you sound this month, as as our member spotlight is because you've had a great start to this year. And we encourage all members to track their progress every 30 days using their wealth chart and completing their monthly progress reports. But you've had a good month. And so what did you do? And and how much has that bumped up your your wealth thermometer?
Unknown Speaker 20:18
Well, firstly, I remember to send off my form clearly amazing in itself. But what why did why did the form stick out? Why why I suppose did did did I make a difference to my thermometer, a long time coming, the last two units, residential unit and the shop of the development I've just completed that they rented so. So from a monthly income point of view, I think it was a 1200 pound a month boost on the thermometer, which is fantastic. Now on the grand scale of of my aspirations, it's the 1200 a month wasn't a huge chunk. For me personally. However, the really nice thing about it, and I think I mentioned this in the call last night is I actually use the money for something that I've been wanting to do for a long time. So it made a difference to my life, the 1200 pound a month asset income. I wanted a new car, I drive a 20 year old vehicle I've done for the last 20 years, but why not? And and it meant that I could actually take those teachings of using a income producing assets to to pay for a luxury. And that's exactly what I did I that money meant that I could then go on online, look at vehicles available. And now I'm driving around a nine month old vehicle instead of a 21 year old one. So it actually it's made a big difference to my life, which is which is fantastic.
Christian Rodwell 21:52
Yeah, I think that's such an important point, you know, links, right back to step one is, is the Why? You know, yes, there's a financial target. But what's the purpose, you know, is to live a more enjoyable life to have more time to do the things that you want to do, and spend that time in the way that you want to. So yeah, really, really good to hear that, Sam. Okay, so we are at Step nine. And Step nine is accelerate your way to independence. And of course, this will take, you know, a different period of time for different people. But what are some of the things from everything you've learned that you think are really important now to help you keep moving forwards? And any tips or words of kind of reassurance for people who are perhaps a little bit further back in their journey? what's helped you to get to the point that you're at today?
Unknown Speaker 22:40
Yeah, well, the, the repeating aspect of it for me, I've got to the point that my path is pretty much set for me, I just need to take step after step on the same path. And I will, I'm pretty confident that I'm going to achieve my goal. So then you can look slightly broader on that and go well, there's more to it than that. It's the enjoyment factor of being on the path. So that's my biggest focus at the moment is now maximizing my enjoyment of my journey. And one area that I think I can do that is by working with other people, and making sure that I can give that hand up to others that might be struggling on their journey, or just starting out on that journey. With the lessons that I've learned, as you rightly asked things like it's your journey, you know, it's completely totally yours and yours alone. So you can't judge your own journey on other people's perceived journey. Because Don't forget, as well, Facebook and all the social media platforms are only the perception that someone wants you to have, as opposed to the, the sort of the nitty gritty of someone else's life. So I think it's very easy to to try and judge your own progress on somebody else. And that straightaway is something that you really need to to get over in order to keep enthusiasm for the rest of your own journey. So yeah, that that's kind of a couple of tips that I'd say are very important. Keeping focused on yourself, your journey, your numbers are different to anybody else's, it doesn't matter what anybody else is doing. And the perceived success that you think someone else seems to be having is completely irrelevant. It's your journey, and it's about you and that's from my own journey. That's where I think I can really add value and where I want to add value is my path is pretty well set. Now, after a lot of hard work. It doesn't come easy, but my path is pretty well set. And I want to enjoy that part more and to enjoy that part more. I think I want to hook up with people and help them enjoy their journeys as well and what better platform than wealth builders to be doing that.
Christian Rodwell 24:55
Yeah, well thank you salmon, and really enjoy having you as One of our members, and I've really enjoyed speaking with you today and hearing your journey. So thanks a lot for sharing with us. Yeah. Likewise, Christian,
Unknown Speaker 25:07
really always nice to talk to you. Thank you.
Christian Rodwell 25:11
Right? Well, I'm looking forward to debriefing that conversation with you, Kevin. But before we do that, let's head on over to trustpilot as we do and pull out one of our latest reviews, and this one's from Andy libram, who's one of our members, and he says, the best wealth building guidance out there, the guidance and information shared for wealth builders is exceptional. It's delivered in a way that's simple to understand and implement. And it's had hugely positive impact on me and my family's financial future and security.
Unknown Speaker 25:39
does what it says on the tin Chris?
Christian Rodwell 25:41
Yeah, well, Andy's been another exceptional member. And perhaps we should get Andy on to share his story in the coming weeks and months ahead. So let's regain our focus back on to Sam. And as you said, at the beginning, Kevin, Sam, perhaps had already got some of those foundational elements in place. And so his focus was on the property pillar. And he'd already obviously had some success in property, but I think he gained value from the structure, and, and now branching on into, you know, new areas of property, and in fact, has just added 1200 pounds to his mamita. So that's a really big increase.
Unknown Speaker 26:23
Well, you know, 1200 pounds in one go is pretty spectacular. And I think he said, you had money invested in a project, which it's important to recognize that sometimes, when you're dealing with bigger projects, not necessarily, you know, the small baby steps that you can take with some strategies where you can be making gains from day one, you have to recognize it's a bit like farming, you know, you have to plant the seeds. And then they have to, you saw them when the crop is ready. And in his case, with property that can take a little bit of time, so the commercial element to it. And of course, you know, that would have been affected in current economics as well. So great to hear that and great to hear also that his properties are so spectacularly good in terms of what they look and feel like in a very popular that I think we're now really going to try and help Sam focus much more on moving onwards, so he can accelerate and leverage that through, through dealing with private investors and, and how to make himself look, investable. So rather than him just telling the story on his own, and using his own money, he's able to get leverage, and we're making some good progress on that. But some very interesting insights from Sam, as I said, slightly, you know, done in a slightly odd way, in the sense that, for example, in the beginning of our wealth builder program, we encourage people to start off choosing the name for their family wealth business, we get them to imagine don't recruit almost they're pioneers of a business of a recurring income system that they then teach to the next generation. And by reconnecting with their reason why and reconnecting with some family logo emblem, and motto that that sort of resonates and makes sense. And for some, that was kind of came at the end, not at the beginning, didn't it?
Christian Rodwell 28:18
It did, it did. And Sam's property business initially was called White House properties, of course, with the the Isle of Wight link. But after, you know, a few sessions with you recently, Kevin, you really kind of dug into this area, which we cover back in step one, which is the family wealth business, which is all about the why it's about the legacy that you're building. And it really got some thinking, and he didn't actually mention it in the conversation. But he's rebranded completely to create a family wealth business name, now, which is Beaufort Harbor, which obviously ties into all the things that are important to him. And he's got a strap line, which is creativity, longevity, and reciprocity. And he's, he told us actually, that that's reflective on how he thinks and does business because he's a dynamo, very creative person. And he builds things to last so buildings, relationships, and wealth, and, you know, really believing in that mutual benefit, and that win win. So it was really, really amazing to see that come together.
Unknown Speaker 29:21
Yeah. And, you know, we, we spent some time together. So look, Sam, this, this is probably going to add some value to this in the future. And so you know, creating the logo, which you can imagine is a spectacular lighthouse. But Beaufort is also for those who are in the no wind term. So it's a term that reflects the measurement of wind speed called the Beaufort scale. So when you bring it all together, you know his love of the Seas love of sailing, being a shining light, not just in his own area, but for his family. And then a safe harbor which is you know, trying to keep not just himself safe, his family safe, but also In due course who his investors safe, you can see how all of this starts to formulate into something that is quite well constructed from the seeds of something at the beginning were just him on his own making decisions. But I think he's now seeing the structure of this being more relevant and something that he can really get behind Chris. And I think it's starting to fuel a bit of a passion going on there, I think he was quite proud of it.
Christian Rodwell 30:28
Well, you mentioned fueling the passion, obviously, Sam's day job is as a pilot. And he said, there, there he was surrounded, you know, by high income pilots who, you know, were spending money on these kind of nice things. But actually, he couldn't really have a conversation with them about wealth building. And you know, that I think that's pretty common for a lot of people, actually, is that this journey can be a bit lonely, and you can have people very close to you that just don't really get it. And that's what attracted him to wealth builders was to be part of a community of like minded people. And he talks about his buddy group there. And obviously, we know who's in his buddy group, and he said, a dynamic group of guys. And that's very true. And I think, you know, he's really benefited and enjoyed that connection. Well, it's
Unknown Speaker 31:15
true to say, Chris, that has people who are high income employed, tend to work in that same circle. And as you said, you're sharing the flight deck. And if you have a conversation about high income, it's fine. You know, people get used to the trappings. We know this. This is age old teaching, isn't it, you know, you The more you earn, the more that you're going to spend money on other things, but the confusion is the liabilities versus asset debate. And I think Sam is focused on wanting to build assets at the price of maybe not having the I think he called it Ferrari, I don't know too many pilots with Ferraris, but he, you know, maybe they do. And it was a decision to want to focus on that. And for for the most part, a high income employed people don't, you know, they they kind of see the trappings of the high income, but don't realize there's a massive, massive potential downfall when that high income stops, for whatever reason that high income would stop, be it health, be it a change in economic circumstances or employer, be it you know, age, it could be all sorts of different things. And then when you start to measurable, what what do you have to fall back on? What's the recurring income to replace that high income, often the change in fortune, the change in level of income is so dramatic, it can, it can really devastate the lives of those who are earning very high sums of money, which is why we've a number of London and city based people in the program. Now, Chris, you know, including actually, if we think about testimony from Andy, who is an ex police officer, making a transition from being in the police force to being you know, wealthy individual and building a business around helping police force escape from that kind of rat race, as well. So, so I think there's some great lessons to be said. And one of those is if you can't see lots of people that you can talk to who can share views, go find yourself, the community that will do that, and we're proud that, you know, wealth builders is the only place we know that deals with with wealth holistically here in the UK. And, and I guess everywhere else, it's, it's difficult lots of places where you can talk about trading or property or one individual pillar, but I think it's rare that we've, I don't think I've seen another organization that deals with all seven assets in one place.
Christian Rodwell 33:45
Yeah. And one more point, I guess, which is important to mention, Kevin is the fact about enjoying the journey. Now this is embedded in our declaration as well, our values is about enjoying the journey and sharing and helping others and that's what Sam said, you know, it's, it's your journey, don't get too caught up on you know, what other people are doing and saying, just focus on your journey one step at a time. And he's now you know, enjoying that and being able to kind of give back and help those who are perhaps a few steps, you know, further behind.
Unknown Speaker 34:19
Yeah, and that's a very interesting point he made I think it's I think we see it a little in the program, don't we to a certain extent, Chris, that sometimes those people who are more dynamic, more dynamic apologies, got maybe a bit more time and they create kind of posts and they share and show what they've been doing and another soup perhaps just taking a little bit longer for all sorts of different reasons can sometimes feel like they've got themselves behind and there's there's no race here. There's no front back middle, peloton, you know, there's nothing it's it's you have an outcome that you're trying to reach financial independence, and that means something different to you. And how you get there is up to you and your family. And what you do about that is up to you. So, Sam's absolutely quiet, right, there is no race. And what's good to know is, you know that he's willing to share what he does. And he's invited us to the Isle of Wight, as new when, when circumstances allow to stay in some of these blank is up there, which I can't wait for that to happen when we can, when we can see people again, Chris, I'm so much looking forward to them.
Christian Rodwell 35:30
Well, if Yeah, if you could have seen the video, actually, so head over to the wealth builders Facebook page, or the other free membership area, and you can see the video interview with the conversation with Sam. And honestly, he, he really looked in his element there with the see glistening in the background. And just before we sign off today, Kevin, we're running a webinar, and it's on the fourth of March. So depending on when you're listening to this podcast, you may or may not still have time to register. But it's really just an opportunity for anyone who'd like to see exactly what kind of goes on inside our seven steps to wealth program, you and I will be on there live. And we'll be walking everyone through our nine step roadmap in our process to help people begin generating recurring income from assets. So you can jump on their register at wealth builders.co.uk forward slash webinar, and it'd be really great to see you there.
Unknown Speaker 36:27
And, you know, hopefully, we can really debunk the challenges, the myths, the self doubt and the excuses that people make for not really taking the steps to become financially independent. And I would say, look, on average, it takes, you know, three to seven years. So if we say five years, on average, you know, five years of a bit of hard work, a bit of effort, a bit of change of thinking, a little bit of investment of your time, energy and money, but they will change your life forever, you know, 60 months away for most people being completely independent of the need to work in their jobs or work in their business. And then if they choose to, well, that's just fantastic. It's a matter of all about personal choice. So tune in for that, you know, there's there's only two things to worry about. One is, you know, you can do a risk free option now, which is, don't show up. The other one is show up because everything we do in wealth builders is got a risk free guarantee anyway, so just show up, be curious. You know, and hopefully you'll, you'll see something that stimulates you to either come and work with us or do something on your own terms.
Christian Rodwell 37:39
Yeah, that'd be really good. So wealth builders.co.uk forward slash webinar. And just just with the drilling in the background, it's time for us to sign off I think, Kevin, so I've enjoyed speaking with you well done to Sam as well. And we'll be back again Same time, same place next week.
Unknown Speaker 37:55
Okay, Chris, my friend until then see you.
Unknown Speaker 38:00
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