Simon Zutshi emphasises the need for financial education for young adults, highlighting the lack of financial guidance in schools. He underscores the importance of teaching money management skills from an early age and discusses an upcoming event in Birmingham aimed at young entrepreneurs aged 15-22. Tune in to discover the significance of financial education and how parents can support their children's financial future.
In today's WealthTalk episode, we discuss financial education for young adults with Simon Zutshi.
Simon highlights the gap in schools' financial education and the importance of teaching money management and entrepreneurship early.
Listeners will learn about Simon's upcoming event in Birmingham, designed to equip young entrepreneurs aged 15-22 with essential financial skills.
Simon stresses the need for young people to start learning about finances early and reflects on his personal motivation, which was influenced by his family and a key figure he met during university.
In the episode, we explore why schools don't adequately teach finance and how parents can help ensure a secure financial future for their children.
Tune in for valuable insights and actionable advice to foster financial literacy in the next generation.
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Speaker 1 0:01
The purpose of wealth talk is to educate, inform, and hopefully entertain you on the subject of building your wealth. Wealth builders recommends you should always take independent financial, tax or legal advice before making any decisions around your finances.
Christian Rodwell 0:17
Today's episode is brought to you by wealth builders membership, a proven step by step process that helps you achieve financial security within two to three years. Find out more. Head to wealth builders.co.uk, forward slash membership. Welcome to this week's episode of wealth talk. My name is Christian Rodwell, membership director for wealth builders, joined today by our founder, Mr Kevin Whelan, hello, Kevin.
Speaker 2 0:40
Hello, Chris. Good to be with you again. And you can probably tell by my attire. I'm just getting ready to hit the golf course. You've got me on a Saturday morning, my wife's away, so Kev will play. So she's off to Cornwell for Prosecco in chat with a number of her friends, you know, the women of a certain age, and yeah, so she's having a great time, and I'm looking forward to hitting a few golf balls, Chris, bad time. We've got you back on the
Christian Rodwell 1:11
I'm off to the tennis court after this. Actually hit some 10 days.
Speaker 2 1:14
How about that? Much, much, much too ambitious. I'm too old for that, but looking forward to this, but we needed to do it today. Today's a Saturday morning, isn't it? Because we have such an important thing that we want to give our support to, don't we?
Christian Rodwell 1:29
Yes, that's right. There's an important event coming up in just a couple of weeks time, and it's been hosted by our good friend, Mr Simon Zucchi, who is our guest today. We've invited Simon to come and talk about the youth financial awareness event that's taking place in Birmingham on the 29th of June. And of course, wealth builders for families is in full swing. Kevin, we launched at the end of last year. It's the bedrock of everything that we teach now at wealth builders. So it's a message very, very close to our heart.
Speaker 2 1:58
I couldn't agree with you more, and I know probably, if we did a count up, rather, probably Simon's been on the podcast more than anybody else, but it but it isn't really about the frequency, it's about the quality of the message, you know. So he's got a good message. He and I have shared many conversations about financial literacy about how we sort of stumbled, him and I on our own wealth building journey. You know, he'll tell his story, I'm sure. But you know, almost by accident was his, and definitely by caused by my, my father's death was mine. So different, different experiences of different families, but both of them led to a wealth journey, and I think it's really important, rather than happen serendipitously, entirely by accident, we try and give our listeners, our readers, our members an opportunity to learn a little about how they can do the best they can intentionally to help their younger children at wealth builders for families, Chris, we talk about the whole family, and we were quite comfortable with lessons and participations that we want to suggest for children as young as five and six, but Simon's definitely aiming in an older group, right?
Christian Rodwell 3:29
Yes, that's right, yeah, the event that's taking place is just for young adults, age between around 15 to 22 and giving them that space without parents, without, you know, anyone around them to openly talk about the topic of money and finances, because it's not a conversation that comes up very often at school. Unfortunately.
Speaker 2 3:50
Well, we've crumbs. How many times have we said that one? And I think with all the political uncertainty, I don't think that's going to get on the agenda anytime soon. What it's all about, if you boiled it down, Chris, it's all about seeing things slightly differently to other people, because so often, as it's been well documented by everybody in this space, most people follow a lockstep path. You know, everybody does the same thing, go to school, go to college, go to university, whatever they do, get a job, and then they, you know, they build a family, and then they retire, and all these are sort of almost like the seven ages of man from from Shakespeare. But I think what's missing, and I think this is where there's a couple of issues I want to raise here. One is creativity, that creativity is embedded in the very fabric of being a being human. It's in our DNA, isn't it? And children are super, super, super creative, but that creativity somehow gets engineered out of them as they get older through the school system, and in many cases, then they lose the sight of that creativity. So to. To create a different environment, not as classroom environment or a school environment, for Simon to be able to share some of his lessons. Very, very powerful. The other thing I would mention is that children of all ages don't always respond best to their parents as the teacher, you know, because there's so much baggage associated with that, you know, you I remember one of our members saying, you know, I think was Chris who said, the kids said, Oh, Dad, you're not going to get your spreadsheet out again, or your flip chart out again, or your PowerPoint out again, or whatever, you know, so, and it's a difficult job when you're a parent to to bring money into the subject without, without sounding like you're brow beating your kids or your your truck. You should do this, because I say so. So I think to have someone like Simon, incredibly gifted speaker, incredibly gifted teacher, very passionate person. And if I never thought about teaching the kids myself, and we've never done that at wealth builders, we've always taught the grown ups, haven't we? You know, we see ourselves in the education space, but for grown ups, not for children. So it'd be fascinating to see how that works and how the parents feel actually not being allowed to be in the room. My brother, Gary, has got a son who's who's a young, young boy. He's a footballer and he's a goalkeeper, and he's had a trial for a team in up in the Northeast. I don't like to say the name, because it's Sunderland, and I don't like can't say it. Can't say it without getting a bit of taste anyway, much to the disappointment of his dad, but not really. His son's having a trial, but he couldn't watch the dad's not allowed to watch the trial and and this is somewhat similar here, you know. So the kids have got to get the most out of it themselves, and I'd be fascinated to see and if I, if I could, I'd love to be a fly on the wall. I can't be there, unfortunately, but I'd love to be a fly on the wall. And maybe we could send someone from wealth builders to be a little fly, with Simon's permission, of course, because we want to promote this event, not for profit, of course, from our part, just for the pure pleasure of suggesting that parents should pay attention to that. Anyway, I don't want to steal Simon's thunder. He's got enough thunder of his own. Should we listen to him?
Christian Rodwell 7:31
We shall, indeed. And yeah, I spoke to Simon, and he shared all about how the event is crafted specifically to educate and empower young individuals on essential financial topics such as money management, cash flow, debt management, budgeting, investing and understanding taxes. So over to Simon to explain more. Simon, welcome back to wealth talk today. How are you Christian? I'm
Unknown Speaker 7:55
really, well, thank you. Thank you so much for asking me back.
Christian Rodwell 7:58
Yeah, it looks like you're on location. What's happening?
Speaker 3 8:00
I'm actually in a hotel, I mean, in the kind of the dining area at the moment, I'm actually running one of our mastermind accelerator three day event of arts course, which I absolutely love to do. And I do heart of training Andy Haynes herself. So I've grabbed a slot right now. What Andy's doing, some of the training to come and speak to you.
Christian Rodwell 8:16
Yeah, wonderful. Well, I was actually a pin event, and you're well known, of course, for setting up the pin network, and that's been running for many, many years. We've talked about that on previous podcasts, but it was this week in Southampton, really good turnout, over 50 people in the room, and they put something up on screen at the beginning, which really caught my attention. I thought I'd love to get you to talk more about this. And this is the youth financial awareness event that's coming up, Simon,
Speaker 3 8:40
I said, well, for many, many years, I've been saying and felt that, unfortunately, our schools don't really prepare our young people for today's society. And I don't think it's the teacher's fault. I think it's a systemic problem, and schools were set up about 160 years ago, to give people enough education to fundamentally work in shops, factories and offices. And the idea is that it would go into education and maybe, you know, then to college or university, and you get a good job, etc. And that worked for many, many years. But society has changed. The world has changed. Technology has changed. And I don't think that some of the things that you learn in school these days really prepares people. I mean, I know about you, Christian, but I must have missed the wealth creation lessons they had at school. I must be now doing something else. I don't know, but I was never taught about money. I was never taught about tax. I was never talking about cash flow. And they would have been really useful things to learn about, right? But they don't teach these things. And you know, I also think in today's society, where we are seeing so much change, and especially, I mean, the last 2030, years, we've seen the internet, but now, particularly AI, the last couple of years, and obviously moving forward, I think everyone knows that, a lot of. Manual jobs are going to be automated by robots and AI, but also there'll be a lot of professional jobs, like doctors, like accountants, like solicitors, where probably AI is going to cover take a lot of those jobs as well. Now obviously there'll be new jobs created in the AI industry supporting AI, but I think the idea of going to school and getting an education and then going to university and getting degree, unless you want to go into a vacation, like you want to be a doctor, surveyor, account or whatever, when maybe that's too but I think so many kids are kind of forced down the education routes thinking they're going to get a job, and maybe that's not the best thing for them. And I think normal job, jobs are great, but I think actually, we should show kids that there are different things thinking, there are different choices. For example, in many of our schools around the country, we have kids whose parents are on benefits and their their parents, their grandparents, want benefits, and they think there aren't any good jobs, I'm not going to get a job. I'm just going to go into benefits. And rather than thinking I need someone to give me a job, we need to change the way they think. I think actually, maybe they could start a business and they could actually employ people. Well, they could be the employer rather than the employee. And I think it's just about instilling this and maybe giving people who maybe haven't had the right kind of role models in the past just something to think about. So that's that's what it's been about. And for many years, I thought, well, it go to get into schools and and train load of people to go into schools and teach that has this whole host of problems. One, obviously, is that, because of the curriculum, sort of pressure for schools to make sure they get results and things and there's not a lot of spare time. And so coming up towards Summertime is at the end of exams, when there is some time, but then all the schools are free at the same time, really, and it'd be hard to do that. So we have a number of years of frustration. Last year, for the very first time, we ran a very small event, 25 kids, as many people who are kids of our clients. The idea was to just give them a day to talk about, not about property, but talk about, if you're going to get a job, how do you get a really good job? How do you move your way up? How do you how do you understand about money and cash flow and tax and and these kind of things that you never, ever learn. It's for 16 to 20 year old, one year olds. We had an amazing day. I had a couple of our younger students there, because I'm getting a bit old now. So our young students, they could relate to, were doing some of to, were doing some of it as well, and it's brilliant. With some great feedback, we're never gonna make it better. And, you know, just got busy, and this one of my passions. And if you don't make time for your passions, they're never gonna happen, right? And so we did that towards the end of the term, beginning of the summer holidays. But let's do a little bit early this year. So we're gonna do on the 29th of June this year. So when the kind of, kind of finished exams, and hopefully they're free, and we're doing it in Birmingham, again, it's a private event. And what we did last year, we're doing again, is we encourage you would come buy a ticket. So if you have young adults, 16 to 2122 they want to come along who buy a ticket, but actually give you a second ticket for free. So either they can come with another sibling, or then come with a friend. Or if they don't have anyone to bring, they can donate the ticket back to us, and we will give it to an inner city child in Birmingham who really would not have exposure to this kind of stuff. We bring them along for the day. And that's the thing that really excites me about, you know, just helping kids see things in a different way, in the same way, you know, I'm running a property event here, and we're opening people's mind to all the different things they do in property. Well, what I'm doing for the kids is nothing doing property, but just, people just don't understand about financial management and cash flow and things. And it's, it's such a tragedy that that is not taught in schools, although it's linked to numeracy, I don't know if it's ever going to happen in school. So there are some progressive schools that that bring people in and try and do this kind of thing. But the challenge with most teachers is most teachers are employees, right? And that's all they think like it. They're not business owners. They don't think like entrepreneurs. It's not their fault. They're just something of the system, if you like. I think someone's got to change. Does that make sense?
Christian Rodwell 13:57
Yeah, no, it sounds great. So just to be clear, this is for the kids. The parents can drop them off. They can come and pick them up later. Parents
Speaker 3 14:03
can drop them off. Yeah, we're doing it just by the NEC. So very easy to get to on train. They can go and parents can go and spend some time in in Lords world, just next to the hotel, or they can go to into Birmingham, whatever interesting. I did a webinar for some of our clients, and actually there's a bit of feedback, saying we want this for our kids are younger. We thought, well, we want people to kind of young adults at 16 plus. But actually, I think what we will do in the future, and it'll be different that we've got very specific content for this age group, I think actually someone, quite a few people, suggested, they said that I'd love to bring my 1112, year olds along. Pretty great if the adults could come with the kids. And I think, you know, very often, we've been talking about what we teach the kids a lot. The kids. A lot of adults have said, Hey, I'd like to learn that because I was never taught that kind of thing. But the reason we're making this just the kids at this event, we've got some team helping us out, obviously. But I think sometimes at that kind of teenage age, you know, parents might be trying to instil some of the. Good principles of their kids. But you know, when you're a teenager, genuinely, you know it all right, and your parents are sometimes the last people you listen to, and so by not having the parents there and having a third party influence, there's a chance maybe they might listen more. Does does that kind
Christian Rodwell 15:16
of resonate? Yeah, I can. I can see that it gives them perhaps, the freedom to express themselves.
Speaker 3 15:22
Their parents were there, you know, yeah, so that's all confidential we're talking about in the room. So that's that's kind of why we really want to able to open up and embrace some of these ideas and philosophies.
Christian Rodwell 15:31
Yeah, and the website to head to if someone wants to register a ticket future
Speaker 3 15:36
financial success.co.uk, I will give you a link so you can put it in the show notes or something. But future financial success.co.uk,
Christian Rodwell 15:47
and as you say, buy one ticket, get one free. I want to get one
Speaker 3 15:50
free. So bring two kids so that then come together, or they can bring a friend, or just let us know we'll donate it to and, and that's that's really good. So when you let people know that some people have paid here, some people have paid for other people say, and that's one of the lessons about, you know, not just thinking about yourself, but trying to help other people in society and contributing how we can all work together. So that's one of the lessons we're trying to get to people
Christian Rodwell 16:10
on the day, thinking back to your own experiences as a child as a young adult, some you mentioned at school, we certainly didn't get these lessons about money and finance. What about at home? What was the dynamic like between your parents when it came to conversations around money,
Speaker 3 16:23
I don't think we really talked that much about money. I mean, my dad was a GP, a doctor, and his philosophy was all about service, and hopefully instilled that belief into me as well. My mom was a nurse when they met, and then she became a housewife, looked after me and my two sisters, and then she became a secretary because she didn't want to be at home all day doing nothing. But she was, she was a great housewife. She'd like cook us cakes and things and put lovely food and make curtains. So you're in a proper housewife, really. And my dad worked really hard. He was, he was a senior practitioner in a GP practice, but he worked. He was on call every other weekend, worked with her, and I went to a grammar school, and, you know, so it was very state school, really. It's a very good school. I was very average person then. So there wasn't any kind of talk about money and stuff there. I think we had a nice life, you know, we were some nice holidays. You know, we learned to ski when I was about 10. So once a year we got a ski. Add some things, maybe some other people didn't have. But then again, you know, I everyone had a tarry video games. I didn't have any of that. I didn't have a TV in my room. So I think a lot of things other people that I didn't have, I don't think I had a difficult, struggling life. I didn't have as much things as some my other friends had, but I never really felt short as money. But I've always been entrepreneurial. So I went out and and I got a job, and, you know, a part time job. And actually my hobby, as you probably know, was magic. So I started doing kids parties and kind of after doing a cab right at local tennis club and that kind of thing, after their annual dinner and things and and so when I was 16, I would go and do, like a magic show on a Saturday afternoon for like a 40 minute show. And I'd earn, this is back in, back in the 80s, right? And I'd earn, maybe late 80s. I'd earn 2025, pounds for like, a 40 minute show, okay? And at the same time, some of my friends were starting working in local double EIGHT Smiths or local Clark shoes or whatever, and they might earn 25 pounds for the whole day. And that's when I had a real distinction about, well, you know, if you have some specialist knowledge that other people don't have, you get paid a lot more. And that's why doctors get paid, because they've gone and educated themselves, and accountants and solicitors because they've got specialist knowledge, and people pay them more for that. So that was a really valuable lesson when I got and the same way property investing, property investors, when you have a specialist knowledge that other people don't have, you can make more money than other people, and that's why I'm a great believer in educating yourself and investing in yourself. If you get to the point we think you know it all, that's a very dangerous place to be. I've been investing almost 30 years now, teaching people, other people how to invest for over 20 years, and I don't know it all. I'm learning all the time, right? So, so my attitude to money when I was younger was, I think when I was 16, my mom gave me my family announcing, right now you could go and buy your own clothes, and you're in control of money. So I think that was a great thing. I learned about using money and spending money. And you spend your you run out, you gotta wait till you get some more money coming in. So I think that was a really good lesson. But if I'm honest, I think, I think my dad was probably pretty much spent everything he earns. I don't think they really saved much money, and I think that's the case with most people, right? I mean, he had a very good job, and you have to do something pretty wrong to lose a job as a doctor. It's a very stable income. But and they had their own home, which was a nice house that got up in value, but they certainly weren't investing in other property. They weren't doing any of those things. So I never had an influence to learn those things. I think the first influence I had was when I was maybe at university. And bear in mind, my mom's dad owned their own house, so I didn't know about renting property until I went to halls of residence and then eventually moved into a student house and I. Up my first student landlord, who had about 100 houses. I sat down one day when he came to an Inspector, he was a full time hands on landlord, and he did an inspection one day, and he sat down, had a cup of tea. I said, Well, how's this housework thing? He explained to me, and I probably didn't really get it. I thought, almost kind of interesting. And a seed went into my head thing, I'm going to do that one day when I got lots of money, I'll buy lots of houses. So it's amazing how people we meet over the years can influence us. We take on ideas. And sometimes people are lucky they meet the right people, and sometimes they don't, because unfortunately, this stuff is just not
Christian Rodwell 20:33
taught in schools. Yeah, so looking back, would you almost say that he perhaps was your first financial role model when you were growing up?
Speaker 3 20:39
He was someone I definitely, I definitely was inspired by what he had done and what he was doing. And I probably didn't really get it at the time, but it a mental note. Went to I thought, oh yeah, I should definitely have some properties at some point, as I've been entrepreneurial, um, but I hadn't really, hadn't realised how, in fact, when I started investing, I didn't have anyone like me telling me what I should be doing. So I learned the hard way. Took me eight years to replace my income, which still pretty good, right? But I could have done it so much quicker. I had someone like me teaching me, but I didn't. And so that's why our students could do it most much quicker, because they they don't have to work it out themselves. They got people to guide them and help Well,
Christian Rodwell 21:18
Simon, I can see, obviously, you've got lots going on there with the events. I'm not going to hold you too much longer, but I'm going to ask you one final question. And what do you think is the best thing that our listeners can do to help their children, organ or grandchildren enjoy a more secure financial future?
Speaker 3 21:33
You know what the best thing is? Christian is to lead by example. Some people think I don't make loads of money give to the kids, and that might work, but unfortunately, sometimes second, third generation, they just squander it all because they're not they don't value it. But if you can become financially independent yourself, not so much to give the kids the money, but to teach them by example what you've done, that has got to be the most valuable thing you can give them, in my opinion.
Christian Rodwell 21:59
Thank you, Simon. I really appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule.
Unknown Speaker 22:03
We had to
Christian Rodwell 22:07
move okay, and we'll just remind anyone listening future financial success.co.uk. Head there. Now find out more information about the event that's coming up, 29th of June, all day long in Birmingham, and it's going to be a cracker. We're really, really happy to support that.
Speaker 3 22:21
Thank you so much. Really appreciate it, and really like everything you're doing it well, brother. So thanks so much for the opportunity to speak again. I'll see you
Christian Rodwell 22:30
soon. Okay, always good to hear from Simon, of course, live on location. So apologies if the sound quality was not up to usual standards there, but I hope you understand that Simon was doing his best to share with us, whilst also setting up his event for the weekend ahead.
Speaker 2 22:47
I like a bit of authenticity, Chris, you know, so we've had a occasional event where, you know, something has gone wrong, the dog's barked or somebody's chirped in, and that's fine, because it's the we're not here for TV quality material. We're here to give information from the heart and, and I think Simon's from from the heart speaker as well. And, and I applaud him for his passion. And, you know, we always want to collaborate with people like Simon. In fact, Chris, just a quick word, if I may, about the hub, which is roaring away now some huge successes that we're we're seeing, and we're hoping to so the wealth hub is essentially the big black book of wealth builders, which allows us to share bit like we're a financial GP, so to speak. And we share our specialists who, from our perspective, anyway, are tried, tested, and while you can never guarantee 100% success if anybody engages with anything at any time, that's our best guess. It's our best job, rather of bringing the best people, outstanding in their niche who we resonate with, to the attention of our members, because we're not the owner of all the IP in the world on wealth, and we definitely want to share that. So whether it's a to do with tax law, education, software, you name it, if there's a someone you need to touch on your journey to be wealthy, in terms of creating multiple streams of recurring income, then we need to bring experts to the attention of our audiences. And, uh, Simon has definitely got pride of place in that one as one of our primary property educators, not the only one, but certainly one who would be, you know, if you were seeding them, he'd be, he'd be coming out in the top seeds. So, yeah, definitely a good man, and I'm pleased that he's doing it, and I wish him every success with him. Yeah,
Christian Rodwell 24:50
yeah, no, really, really good. And I'd love to make sure that we also acknowledge those who are not members, but still getting great value from wealth building. Kevin by touching base with us, and in particular, touching base with you, because we've had a review this week from suc who says spoke to Kevin Whelan of wealth builders today, further to listening to his great wisdom and knowledge relating SAS, relating to SAS pensions on his podcast, he's generous of his time to understand your personal circumstances, and how to tailor his expertise in aiding you with your wealth creation journey. Kevin has the gift, like all great, articulate speakers, to simplify all complex matters in a clear, crisp and common, sensual manner. If you if you're at a stage in life where tax planning, generational wealth and legacy are important, then Kevin Whelan is the go to guy.
Speaker 2 25:44
I think what sometimes surprises people is the fact that you me, and it's not just a single person effort here. Wealth build is very much a team effort, and we put our effort into these things, and we're always speaking to people who we think might just need a distinction or two, as I mentioned earlier on, creativity is at the heart of wealth building, and creativity means looking at things from a different perspective. And because for 30 years, all I've done is look at wealth. I don't do anything else, don't have a day job, don't have anything else, really. I just love and fascinated by the subject, then I built up that sort of CAT scan ability to talk to someone and give them a solution for themselves, whether they pay us for or not for it. I'm not bothered about that. Obviously, we like people to be members, because then they'll get the most enriching experience if they do. But sometimes it's just a shot in the arm that you need, and hopefully I gave him a shot in the arm, and one day he'll come back when he needs something a bit more. I'm always happy to do that. So if anybody wants to reach out, just feel free to do that. And we've got lots of ways that we share with with people how to consume our content. Chris, completely free of charge, don't we?
Christian Rodwell 26:59
Yeah, head to the wealth builders website if you haven't been there recently or ever, perhaps go to wealthbuilders.co.uk We have all of our back catalogue of podcasts, nearly 250 episodes. You can search for anything, any keyword. You can bring up business, tax, anything that you might need some help with, and you can book a call with our team, really, really easily. Head to wealthbuilders.co.uk, forward slash discovery call. So yeah, lots of great stuff there. We also have a community on Facebook which is completely free to join. So once again, just search for wealth builders and request access. And yeah, we'll be pleased to see you there.
Speaker 2 27:37
Yeah, we, we shamelessly give stuff away. And the reason we do that is because, you know, we know the timing is never right, always for someone to to want to put more time into it. And therefore we're, we're willing to help people who've got very little time, give them something better to do. They see a result from that, and they're going, Well, okay, if I got that from a 15 minute call, what? What would I get if I, you know, engaged with them longer term? So, yes, it's, you know, there's some self serving element to that. But in reality, you we know that sometimes people participate in our free information and free resources for even two or three years, Chris before, and we don't hesitate to want to continue to do that. So yeah, enjoy that everyone and and look forward to seeing some of you in the Facebook group and and seeing some of you, perhaps books and calls. And if you if actually you think it would be me you'd want to speak to, you'd need to give a reason for that. You know, you wouldn't just be able to put a call directly with me, for obvious reasons. But if there's something you want and you could give us an email summary of what's troubling you, what's getting you stuck, if I think I can help you, I'll pick I'll pick that out and give you a call personally.
Christian Rodwell 28:59
So we'll be sharing all the details of Simon's upcoming event, the future financial success event in our wealth build community. So do make sure you're in there. And I'll pop a link in today's show notes as well. And Kevin will be back Same time, same place next week, not
Speaker 2 29:16
on a Saturday, though, my friend, until then, see you.
Speaker 1 29:22
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